Re: Graphic converter query - transparency

Jim <jim@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> > > My point is that although broadband lines are indeed subject to
variable
> > > download conditions, the only person who can say if it's
"significant"
> > > is the person using it. 
> > 
> > And my point is that that's wrong and that there are established
methods
> > for *****sing this sort of thing that avoid the subjectivity that you
> > insist on applying.
> 
> So you're saying that if I'm generally only getting 50% of my download
> bandwidth, I should consider that "normal" ?

What I'm saying is that if you have a `normal fast broadband link' to
your home, say 8 MBit/s, and you generally manage to get half that used
for downloading from a single server, then you should consider that
pretty damned good really.

If you can't max out your broadband line by downloading from /multiple/
servers, your ISP ain't doing its job right - but I'd not expect to max
out my broadband connection with a single server, 'cos servers out on
the internet generally won't give me data that quickly.

> It's a good thing I don't consider that normal, because I would have
> been wrong.

I don't know what you mean by `normal' in this case.  What's `normal'?
Some servers I download from give me data at modem speeds.  Some manage
a lot better than that.  Some feel like they're using IP over carrier
pigeon.

> As I've already said: in almost all cases where I've been getting what
> _I_ consider to be significantly sub-par download speed it's been due to
> a diagnosable, fixable problem that I've diagnosed and fixed, or it's
> been tem****ary congestion upstream.
> 
> You can deny it all you want but it won't stop it being true.

<puzzled>  Deny what?

Give me the url of a server you can get 8 MB/s from.  Show me.

I've never met a single server that'll give me data that quickly.  Two
or three can max out my connection; one never has done.

Rowland.

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