Great information Will, thans for sharing your experiences.
"William Smith" wrote:
> Hi Mark!
>
> My comments are inline with yours.
>
> > In the past we controlled directory access via shares as NTFS
permissions
> > were not recognized. With MAC OS X this is no longer the case. NTFS
> > permissions work.
> > We are going to do some testing, but I wonder if File Server for
Macintosh
> > will be required on our 2003 server?
>
> NTFS permissions are recognized but ACLs are not sup****ted unless your
> Mac runs Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger). Prior to Tiger the best way I've ever
> found to set good Mac permissions is to create the Mac volume and then
> log in to the server as an administrator from a Mac and set the upper
> level permissions there. The advanced permissions from the ACLs can
> cause a variety of surprising results that aren't always Mac-friendly.
>
> > We are also curious about moving this data to the new server. It seems
that
> > there are several system folders generated when File Server for
Macintosh is
> > enabled. We used RoboCopy in the past, but there seem to be too many
> > exclusions for system folders in our current file structure. We are
> > considering a normal backup of the server and restoration to the new
server.
> > (Approx. 325G of data) Anyone have any exerience along these lines?
Also, are
> > the system folders on the current server going to be necessary to move
to the
> > new folder?
>
> For anyone connecting Mac OS X to a Windows server, I suggest you use
> neither Windows Server's File Services for Macintosh nor Mac OS X's SMB
> capabilities.
>
> File Services for Macintosh is still running the old AFP 2.2 file
> sharing protocol, which is behind Mac OS X's AFP 3.2 (Tiger). You'd
> still be limited to 31 characters for file names and folders and the
> difference between the two protocols has been found to be somewhat
> unstable.
>
> Mac OS X's SMB client is clunky and I've found its implementation can
> lead to permissions issues, locked files, files that can't be deleted,
> etc. Also, Windows users can potentially see the numerous hidden "._"
> files placed on the server by Mac OS X.
>
> I suggest that if you have multiple Mac users, you look into a third
> party AFP server such as ExtremeZ-IP from <http://www.grouplogic.com>.
> Or if you'll have relatively few Macs then I suggest Dave or ADmitMac
> from <http://www.thursby.com>.
When deciding between the two products
> you'll need to weight the costs of the products in addition to whether
> or not you want to administer a single more expensive application on the
> server versus multiple less expensive clients on the Macs. Both
> companies offer free trials.
>
> Hope this helps! bill
> --
> William M. Smith
> (Microsoft Interop MVP - Mac/Windows)
>


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