Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac

In article <1193091951.878011@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Michael Ash <mike@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Would you happen to know of any downloadable Qt apps which look and
behave 
> like native Mac apps? I would love to see one. I think it would be great

> if there were a viable cross-platform application framework, but so far 
> every single application I've seen which was written in one completely 
> failed to look or act the way I expected. If there are proper apps
written 
> in Qt then perhaps my *****sment is wrong.

Qt3 apps look horrible, and it's probably largely these you've seen. Qt4 
apps look pretty decent. The behavior is largely up to you, though. My 
product isn't ****pping yet for Mac, but as a Mac developer (currently 
being held captive in a "Windows first" workplace), I've been able to 
achieve most of what I wanted.

The places Qt4 falls down are Mac only widgets rounded edit fields (i.e. 
the search type) and progress animations (the "spinning arrows"). I've 
seen solutions to the rounded edit fields, but they were inelegant for 
developer and user alike.

It also doesn't sup****t spell checking in edit fields yet, but I've seen 
some evidence that may be coming soon.

At this point, I think I would use Qt4 to target a single platform. 
Project management alone is worth it: you maintain a simple text file 
(think Makefile, although it's much simpler) with a text editor instead 
of an XML file that's manipulated with Xcode.

> If you could elaborate a bit on your reasons for thinking that 
> Objective-C itself is a problem without resorting to FUD words like 
> "obscure" and "virtually unknown", I would very much like to know what 
> they are.

For me, it's that even now as is poor integration with C++. If I want to 
cross platform business logic, it's going to be in C++. We're almost in 
2008, and exceptions can't be passed easily from C++ to the Objective C 
UI code. That's a very big deal to me.