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Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac

by Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 23, 2007 at 06:16 AM

In article <slrnfhr8gv.3c6.root@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Paul Floyd <root@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> I'm perfectly happy with Google Earth and Opera, which to my knowledge
> ae both Qt based apps.

I don't use Opera, but I can definitely say Google Earth is a train 
wreck of an app, Mac-wise.  Most glaring to me are the fake utility 
window for things like the ruler and the search text fields don't tie in 
to system features at all (e.g., no services).  It is very much in the 
"uncanny valley" of ****ted apps.

To be fair, though, there are plenty of Carbon ****ts that don't fit very 
well with Mac OS X either, including the one I'm using right now 
(MT-NewsWatcher).  I think Apple bears a fair amount of the blame for 
this, too.  They've had years to unify their development and interface 
models, but they're still all over the map when it comes to publi****ng 
or following any reasonable guidelines.  It's supposed to be better with 
Leopard, but my gut feeling is that it's actually going to get worse.

> Outside of these circles, searching for "C++" on www.jobserve.com gives
> me 3430 hits. Objective-C? 1. That's right, one hit. And the title for
> the job offer? "C++ Mac Developer - Belgium - Cocoa Xcode OSX". (For
> real job prospects, Java rules with 5968 hits).
> 
> Are you going to persist in arguing that Objective-C is not obscure and
> virtually unknown?

I would say it is the mark of a bad OO programmer to know more about C++ 
than ObjC.  It mirrors quite well the ignorance of the Mac hating 
Windows user that assumes that because they're in the with the 95% crowd 
that they're doing the "correct" thing.  Getting the job done right, for 
any job I've ever had that matters, is more im****tant than popularity.

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Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
"Chris Shearer Coope  2007-10-11 15:00:31 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Reinder Verlinde <rein  2007-10-12 00:22:16 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Jeffrey Dutky <jeff.du  2007-10-11 22:22:34 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
mlabs <aaron.miramar.l  2007-10-12 07:10:19 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Simon Slavin <slavins.  2007-10-13 20:43:42 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
"Armel Asselin"  2007-10-22 11:03:19 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Doc O'Leary <droleary.  2007-10-22 06:52:59 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
"Armel Asselin"  2007-10-22 14:35:48 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2007-10-22 11:41:19 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Gregory Weston <uce@[E  2007-10-22 09:48:49 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Paul Floyd <root@[EMAI  2007-10-22 18:10:17 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Gregory Weston <uce@[E  2007-10-22 17:55:26 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2007-10-22 17:25:53 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Paul Floyd <root@[EMAI  2007-10-23 07:26:23 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Doc O'Leary <droleary.  2007-10-23 06:16:18 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Gabriele Greco <gabrie  2007-10-23 13:26:35 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Sherman Pendley <spamt  2007-10-23 11:00:44 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Gregory Weston <uce@[E  2007-10-23 09:26:15 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Paul Floyd <root@[EMAI  2007-10-24 20:41:13 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Tom Harrington <tph@[E  2007-10-24 15:33:16 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Paul Floyd <root@[EMAI  2007-10-24 22:17:12 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2007-10-24 18:52:35 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Gregory Weston <uce@[E  2007-10-25 10:48:42 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Paul Floyd <root@[EMAI  2007-10-25 21:18:27 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Gregory Weston <uce@[E  2007-10-26 11:44:06 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Ben Artin <macdev@[EMA  2007-10-26 23:21:16 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Gregory Weston <uce@[E  2007-10-27 06:52:40 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2007-10-23 10:47:18 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Paul Floyd <root@[EMAI  2007-10-24 22:08:24 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Tom Harrington <tph@[E  2007-10-23 10:00:07 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Simon Slavin <slavins.  2007-10-25 20:19:27 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2007-10-25 17:48:44 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Steven Fisher <steve@[  2007-10-23 21:32:00 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2007-10-23 21:40:56 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Paul Floyd <root@[EMAI  2007-10-24 20:56:43 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Ben Artin <macdev@[EMA  2007-10-25 16:29:53 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2007-10-25 17:52:58 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Gabriele Greco <gabrie  2007-10-26 11:18:20 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
glenn andreas <gandrea  2007-10-26 08:52:11 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2007-10-26 10:01:16 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Ben Artin <macdev@[EMA  2007-10-26 23:10:42 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Chris Hanson <cmh@[EMA  2007-10-27 02:00:33 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Ben Artin <macdev@[EMA  2007-11-08 01:33:48 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2007-11-08 10:04:40 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Ben Artin <macdev@[EMA  2007-11-08 11:39:25 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2007-11-08 11:17:18 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Ben Artin <macdev@[EMA  2007-11-08 13:35:24 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2007-11-08 21:42:39 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
glenn andreas <gandrea  2007-11-08 10:05:23 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Ben Artin <macdev@[EMA  2007-11-08 11:42:46 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Steven Fisher <steve@[  2007-10-26 07:40:08 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Steven Fisher <steve@[  2007-10-26 07:43:35 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2007-10-26 10:12:27 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Steven Fisher <sdfishe  2007-10-27 06:02:07 
Re: Cross-Platform Windows plus Mac
Chris Hanson <cmh@[EMA  2007-10-27 02:09:34 

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