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Re: Hats off to long-time Mac OS developers...

by Walter Bushell <proto@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 11, 2008 at 07:00 PM

In article <uce-19A8CC.07502506012008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Gregory Weston <uce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> In article <davido-D52123.22201405012008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>  David Orriss Jr <davido@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> > To any/all of you who went through developing for the Mac OS from the 
> > 80's and 90's.. if you're still writing software for the Mac, you have

> > my respect.. and a bit of sympathy too given the history of developer 
> > tools for the Mac:
> > 
> >
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/11/01/an_introductory_mac_os_x_le
> > opard_review_developer_tools.html
> > 
> > (http://preview.tinyurl.com/27ugms)
> > 
> > When I started using Apples it was with the ][+ and //e - which had 
> > their fair share of headaches in terms of developer/programmer tools. 

> > But Mac OS dev tools?  Moving from the killed-by-MS MacBasic, to MPW,
to 
> > HyperCard, to Codewarrior, etc etc...  It's a miracle anyone wrote 
> > software for the Mac prior to OS X and more recently - with the 
> > migration to the Intel architecture.
> > 
> > Please do not take this as anything other than what it is - I'm not 
> > trying to start a flame war or bash the Mac.  When the //gs came out I

> > moved over to the PC and about a year ago bought my Mac Pro - which is

> > arguably the best desktop machine ever made.  But looking back it just

> > amazes me that Apple and the Mac made it to this point given what they

> > put developers through.
> 
> Speaking as someone who's written software for more than a dozen 
> distinct platforms I'd have a tough time picking any point in time where

> the experience of developing for Macs was particularly worse than any 
> other platform. At least technologically. The biggest problems I've had 
> with any platform is the way the vendor treats 3rd-party developers. 
> Apple's nadir on that front was 1989, and it took them almost a decade 
> to recover from that idiocy. It seems like every vendor goes through a 
> period of treating their developers with contempt at some point. You 
> should've seen the hoops you had to jump through to be allowed to label 
> your software as "Windows compatible" in the second half of the 90s, for

> example. But as far as tools and APIs go, it's been pretty much a wash 
> IMO.

What about that horrid memory management where you had to know like 
before every call wether it moved memory or not????
 




 7 Posts in Topic:
Hats off to long-time Mac OS developers...
David Orriss Jr <david  2008-01-05 22:20:14 
Re: Hats off to long-time Mac OS developers...
Gregory Weston <uce@[E  2008-01-06 07:50:25 
Re: Hats off to long-time Mac OS developers...
David Orriss Jr <david  2008-01-06 10:57:00 
Re: Hats off to long-time Mac OS developers...
Walter Bushell <proto@  2008-01-11 19:00:26 
Re: Hats off to long-time Mac OS developers...
Gregory Weston <uce@[E  2008-01-12 09:08:36 
Re: Hats off to long-time Mac OS developers...
Steven Fisher <sdfishe  2008-01-14 23:02:44 
Re: Hats off to long-time Mac OS developers...
Simon Slavin <slavins.  2008-01-14 20:35:56 

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