In article <uce-19A8CC.07502506012008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Gregory Weston <uce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> In article <davido-D52123.22201405012008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> David Orriss Jr <davido@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > To any/all of you who went through developing for the Mac OS from the
> > 80's and 90's.. if you're still writing software for the Mac, you have
> > my respect.. and a bit of sympathy too given the history of developer
> > tools for the Mac:
> >
> >
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/11/01/an_introductory_mac_os_x_le
> > opard_review_developer_tools.html
> >
> > (http://preview.tinyurl.com/27ugms)
> >
> > When I started using Apples it was with the ][+ and //e - which had
> > their fair share of headaches in terms of developer/programmer tools.
> > But Mac OS dev tools? Moving from the killed-by-MS MacBasic, to MPW,
to
> > HyperCard, to Codewarrior, etc etc... It's a miracle anyone wrote
> > software for the Mac prior to OS X and more recently - with the
> > migration to the Intel architecture.
> >
> > Please do not take this as anything other than what it is - I'm not
> > trying to start a flame war or bash the Mac. When the //gs came out I
> > moved over to the PC and about a year ago bought my Mac Pro - which is
> > arguably the best desktop machine ever made. But looking back it just
> > amazes me that Apple and the Mac made it to this point given what they
> > put developers through.
>
> Speaking as someone who's written software for more than a dozen
> distinct platforms I'd have a tough time picking any point in time where
> the experience of developing for Macs was particularly worse than any
> other platform. At least technologically. The biggest problems I've had
> with any platform is the way the vendor treats 3rd-party developers.
> Apple's nadir on that front was 1989, and it took them almost a decade
> to recover from that idiocy. It seems like every vendor goes through a
> period of treating their developers with contempt at some point. You
> should've seen the hoops you had to jump through to be allowed to label
> your software as "Windows compatible" in the second half of the 90s, for
> example. But as far as tools and APIs go, it's been pretty much a wash
> IMO.
Actually I saw the hoops Windows developers went through in the 90's to
get that stamp.. I was one of those developers. It's one of the reasons
I went back to doing Unix and then later Java app development... ;)
--
David O
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