Re: Cocoa Newbie Question.

In article <1iimcx5.1una15a1a1y83kN%jim@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 jim@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (jim) wrote:

> piscesboy <oraclmaster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Chris. That was a very civil response. I wish all people on
> > this board were as civil. And, yes, I do come with several questions
> > about Cocoa, about which I have 5 days and 4 hours of experience as of
> > now. But when I take offense at something I try to let others know
> > about it.

Letting people know you were offended is fine, but you should also 
accept at face value their explanation for what they were trying to 
accomplish, accept the possibility that perhaps your sense of offense 
was unwarranted and let it pass as an honest misunderstanding 
exacerbated by the inherently limited nature of text streams. Throwing a 
hissy fit because you misinterpreted someone's intentions, insisting 
that you know better than they do what motivated them and immediately 
resorting to name calling and overt insults yourself is, bluntly, 
childish. We are civil here; you were the one who took the thread into 
the realm of the personal attack.

One more time: Dave offered polite advice motivated by a simple 
assumption that your knowledge might not be complete, and later 
explained his rationale for that assumption. You took it as an attack on 
your ability to learn, insisted that your interpretation had to be the 
correct one and escalated it.


> I can highly recomend Aaron Hillegass' "Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X"
> 3rd edition. It only uses XCode and IB (so no makefiles) but it's one of
> the finest tutorials for Cocoa around.
> 
> Make sure you get the 3rd edition though, as the 2nd edition uses an
> older version of XCode and IB and would be confusing. IB changed quite a
> lot.

Caveat: The OP may not actually have Leopard. I took a quick look back 
through the thread and I don't see confirmation that the latest version 
of XCode is an option for him.

So, starting with the presumption that one is willing to learn and use 
XCode: If you have Leopard, or intend to upgrade very soon, get the 3rd 
edition. Otherwise get the second, which *should* still be findable at 
this point.

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