"Michael Ash" <mike@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> In comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc Peter Olcott <NoSpam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>>
>> "Michael Ash" <mike@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:1162091130.43223@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> In comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc Peter Olcott <NoSpam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Michael Ash" <mike@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>> news:1162069400.16399@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> In comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc Peter Olcott <NoSpam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>>>>>> Can this be done in Mac OS, and how is it done?
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you not see the six responses you got in the other thread where
you
>>>>> asked the exact same question?
>>>>
>>>> Most of the answers were wrong, because I was not specific enough
with my
>>>> question, and the one answer that was not wrong left out details that
I
>>>> needed.
>>>
>>> Starting a new thread with no acknowledgement of the previous thread
is
>>> violating rule #9. This newsgroup isn't a machine, it's just a place
for
>>
>> Exactly what difference does it make?
>
> Thin-skinned people such as myself tend to feel it is insulting. People
> who are insulted generally don't want te help out.
>
> What difference does politeness make? In theory nothing, in practice
> everything.
>
>>> people to discuss things. Don't treat it like a game where you just
have
>>> to get the format correct so you can get your answer. If we were all
face
>>> to face you would probably say something like, "sorry, I was unclear,
let
>>> me start over", before you actually did start over; do the same even
>>> though we're all just phosphors on the screen.
>>
>> Except with newsgroups you could very well get an entirely different
set of
>> people that never saw the first message, because the different subject
line
>> screened them out, or for many other reasons. Although newsgroup
postings
>> have
>> some of the aspects of a conversion, they also have some of the aspects
of
>> mass
>> communication, one can not correctly ignore the latter.
>
> You *could*, but guess what, you didn't. And you won't in the future,
> either. Generally the same bunch of regulars read a large number of the
> messages. Obviously I read both. It's *much* better to acknowledge the
> previous thread and momentarily confuse the people who didn't read it
(as
> if they'll be confused at all, they know what's what) than it is to
ignore
> the previous thread and piss off everybody in the group.
Why would anyone choose to be offended? With such a thing as this, it is
only a
purely arbitrary convention that has no ultimate basis in reasoning. I
myself
choose to never be offended, unless the specific intend to offend is make
100%
completely explicit. I often choose not to be offended in these cases
either.
Why choose to be offended? Choosing to be offended reduces the quality of
one's
life.
>
>>> And on a slightly different topic, don't just put your question in the
>>> subject, put a subject in the subject and put your question in the
body,
>>> it makes it easier to read and refer to, and frees you from having to
>>> squeeze the question into a few dozen characters.
>>
>> Exactly what difference does it make?
>> My subject and my question are one and the same thing, If I don't get
right
>> to
>> the point immediately the majority of people that only read the subject
>> before
>> deciding whether or not to even look at the message will never get
around to
>> seeing my question.
>
> Your question was too short. This was your problem in the first thread,
> and why you got a bunch of answers you didn't want. It's *still* too
> short. A good question should describe the context and background of the
> question, not just a one-sentence thing that you're trying to
accomplish.
>
> If you're still confused as to why I care about any of this, I suggest
you
> read this:
>
> http://www.mikeash.com/getting_answers.html
>
> Assuming your goal is to get help, following the rules is the best way
to
> accomplish it.
>
> --
> Michael Ash
> Rogue Amoeba Software


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