In article <pXTlh.80561$V34.76314@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Lawson English <LawsonE@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> ZnU wrote:
> > In article <pQBlh.4329$hr3.4315@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > Lawson English <LawsonE@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> >> ZnU wrote:
> [...].
> >>>> Eh. Even within EQ and WoW, there's a huge amount of content
> >>>> that is continually being updated: the locations of all the MOBs
> >>>> and players.
> >>> Sure, but this stuff is comparatively tiny, compared with all the
> >>> geometry and textures..
> >> Sure, but its not constantly changing as is the case with 100+
> >> mobile objects and/or avatars.
> >
> > It is constantly changing if you're moving around.
>
> All the arbitrary objects are moving around constantly? The buildings
> never stand still?
Position data is really pretty trivial to send.
> >> As the tools become cheaper and easier to use, you will see more
> >> stuff made using them.
> >
> > Which might be really interesting if I'd been saying there was no
> > large market for 3D animation software or computer-generated
> > animation. But of course I haven't been saying that. I've been
> > saying there's no large market for distributing 3D content *as* 3D
> > content[1]. This has nothing to do with the market for things like,
> > say, Pixar movies, which happen to be creating using 3D animation
> > tools.
> >
> > [1] Except the video game market, of course.
>
> My point is that there was no large market for distributed 3D
> animation until the price of the tools came down.
Uh. But there was.
> Right now, I can't even PLAY MPEG-4 content letalone create it,
> because none of the experimental tools are available on the Mac save
> as relatively complex open source distributions that I have to get
> working. If the tools were widely available, and reasonably easy to
> use, AND there were widely available and easy-to-use MPEG-4 players
> (beyond the Extended Simple profile that QuickTime implements), you
> would obviously see more MPEG-4 content. How much more, who can say?
> But right now, you don't see ANY, unless you go to the trouble of
> downloading GPAC or purchase some pretty darned expensive commercial
> solution.
We're going in circles here. As I've pointed out several times, during
the time VRML and similar have been stagnating, other technologies have
got from non-existent to industry-standard. These things do actually
happen. But only if there's demand.
--
"That's George Wa****ngton, the first president, of course. The interesting
thing
about him is that I read three‹three or four books about him last year.
Isn't
that interesting?"
- George W. Bush to re****ter Kai Diekmann, May 5,
2006


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