Re: The Battle of the Browsers

In article <0001HW.C19B6E0D00045AC5B019F94F@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 14:36:50 -0600, dorayme wrote (in article 
> <doraymeRidThis-39723D.07365006122006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>): 
> 
> > In article <1165321596.161976.151660@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
"Bruce 
> > L Grubb" <bgrubb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> >> Get a WYSIWYG website program not designed by morons. Amaya 
> >> <http://www.w3.org/Amaya/>
by the W3C should be your tool of choice.
Most 
> >> other WYSIWYG website programs use way too much javascript because
for 
> >> the most part they are designed by either morons or idiots. 
> > 
> > I very much disagree with this advice. For now, in OP's case, the way
to 
> > go is to in quite the opposite direction. The ability to use so called

> > WYSIWYG ("so-called" because the "what you get bit" is not often
soundly 
> > based in the proper object for this phrase, namely delivering
accessible 
> > web content. But there is a very simple reason not to do so yet, you
need 
> > to understand the issues, the html/css before you can truly *****s
these 
> > programs or find them useful and time saving. The more you get to
know, 
> > the less you will find them useful. 
> 
> The fact remains that I (the original poster) was able to achieve
exactly the 
> effects I wanted with a WYSIWIG site development program, in my case
Freeway 
> 4 Pro. The site performs correctly when viewed in Safari, Firefox,
Camino, 
> and Opera, and has a minor glitch (a slight sideways jump when opening
some 
> of the pages) when viewed in iCab. 
> 
> From the time I originally posted a link to my site at 
> <www.homepage.mac.com/taliesinsoft/Adams/> I have made several changes
in 
> response to user feedback. At no time in the development and
modification of 
> the site did I have to resort to using or even understanding the
underlying 
> code. 
> 
> >> Use the w3c program. Clean code make is MUCH easier to update things.

> > 
> > And this too, I am afraid. There is not much relation between valid
code 
> > and clean code in the sense of easy to understand and update. 
> 
> The code for my site p***** W3C Strict validation with no errors.

I was meaning no criticism of you, TaliesinSoft. You seemed to be 
taking an interest in cutting down the html and simplifying and I 
was really saying that the future for one with such tendencies is 
to go in an opposite direction to Bruce's advice. At least for a 
while.

Just another thing, while I am here. Your site, I am sure, will 
be of great interest to many non Mac users. So always check in 
Windows Browsers, especially the big elephant in the room, IE6  
(likely it will be IE7 in time, but not yet and IE6 will be 
elephant enough for some time to come).

-- 
dorayme