George Graves wrote:
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 03:12:29 -0700, nospamatall wrote
> (in article <huxYj.25509$j7.469267@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
>
>> Where are you from George Graves?
>
> I'm an American. I grew-up near Wa****ngton DC and I've lived all my
adult
> life in the San Jose California area about 30-40 miles south of San
Francisco
> - one of the most left-wing Liberal areas of the country, yet all of my
> friends are ultra-right-wing and so am I (with certain practical
exceptions).
>
>
>> And anyway, isn't the USA always going
>> on about how everyone has equal rights regardless of race or creed?
>
> I'm not sure what you're on about since you quoted no thread, but this
isn't
> about race or creed or even ***. This is about politics and left-wing
> liberalism vs right-wing Conservatism. In Obama's case, its also about
the
> fact that he has ties to Islam about which I ordinarily could care less,
but
> some time ago, in case you didn't know, factions of the Muslim world
sort of
> declared war on Western Culture. And they've decided that USA is the
foremost
> proponent of that culture and they have openly attacked us and
constantly
> threaten to do it again. I sort of see that as pretty much the same
thing as
> being asked, in WWII, to vote for a first generation German-American as
> President. Pardon me if I err on the side of caution, and pass.
>
>> Imagine if people were making the same fuss about whether he was a
>> 'closet jew'? It's called bigotry.
>
> Not really. I ordinarily don't care about someone's religion (except to
look
> on all of them with an equally suspicious eye), but in this case, as I
said
> above. I'd rather not have someone with an Islamic background - no
matter how
> tenuous - as Commander-in-Chief. I also don't want a President who's
made
> anti-American comments, whose wife has said publicly and repeatedly that
> she's NEVER been proud to be an American, and whose "most im****tant"
life
> influence has been a preacher who openly hates his own country and
preaches
> against it continuously. These are the "red flags" about which I speak.
In my
> opinion Barack Hussein Obama is NOT a good American, would not make an
> appropriate president, and I don't give a flying **** if he's, black,
red,
> green or blue!
>
>> With the electorate the US has it's a miracle the mess you're in isn't
>> far worse.
>
> The Electorate that the USA has is no different than the Electorate of
any
> Western Democracy, and from your server suffix, I suspect that you are
from
> the Irish Republic. If so, your electorate hasn't so sterling a record
that
> you can afford to throw stones either.
>
OK sounds like I may have misunderstood what you wrote about Islamic
people, but I still don't know. It seems to me that it's a bit extreme
to view one with that kind of suspicion just because there are others
under the same religion who do bad stuff. Religion has little to do with
it, except as a tool that can be abused, and that applies to all
religions. The "Christian" Right in the US seems a far bigger threat to
long-term stability in the US to me. Now, there is an organized force
worthy of respect! And they don't need to invade, they are already there.
And I still don't have any idea who was responsible for that huge
atrocity. All I know is that the official story sounds as dodgy as the
other conspiracy theories.
We are supposedly in an age of far greater global communications than
humans have ever seen. So the problem must be us humans, because the
communications can't be blamed.
Andy
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