In article <okKXj.143939$Er2.124133@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
"weedhopper" <whopper@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-1017A0.00213017052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > In article <b0d8$482e0397$18663@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> >> Alan Baker wrote:
> >> > In article <ed0e2$482dbc1e$10679@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >> > Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Alan Baker wrote:
> >> >>> In article <5aa3d$482dba52$9763@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >> >>> Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> >> >>>>> In article <c3799$482db496$7869@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >> >>>>> Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> In article <5e9bd$482daf22$6035@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >> >>>>>>> Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> In article <mVhXj.9251$hv2.4276@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >> >>>>>>>>> "weedhopper" <whopper@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Impressive!!
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8614
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> "Apple's global market share is only 3.3 percent among the
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 69.5
> >> >>>>>>>>>> million
> >> >>>>>>>>>> PC
> >> >>>>>>>>>> ****pped in the March quarter, according to IDC. "
> >> >>>>>>>>> "But that market share tally is up from 2.5 percent in the
> >> >>>>>>>>> March
> >> >>>>>>>>> quarter
> >> >>>>>>>>> a year ago. Why do those Apple gains matter? Those Mac
sales
> >> >>>>>>>>> most
> >> >>>>>>>>> likely
> >> >>>>>>>>> came at the expense of a new Windows machine."
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> BTW, what is the whole subject of that post?
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> "Microsoft¹s elephant in the OS room: Apple"
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> The whole thing is about how the Mac is making an impact
into
> >> >>>>>>>>> Microsoft's market.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> 'TR¹s audience is comprised of the folks that actually
> >> >>>>>>>>> implement
> >> >>>>>>>>> stuff.
> >> >>>>>>>>> It¹s not the fanboy crowd. One sample response from an IT
exec:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> "I started out as a Windows/Novell man, but now I advocate
for
> >> >>>>>>>>> Mac
> >> >>>>>>>>> purchases and make them as much as I can. Two main reasons
I do
> >> >>>>>>>>> this:
> >> >>>>>>>>> 1)
> >> >>>>>>>>> on the whole, they require less time to sup****t, much less
> >> >>>>>>>>> time,
> >> >>>>>>>>> actually, because the OS runs better and there are fewer
> >> >>>>>>>>> malware
> >> >>>>>>>>> concerns; 2) I practice the philosophy of keeping it
simple.
> >> >>>>>>>>> Mac
> >> >>>>>>>>> software is easy to use and, more im****tantly, easy to
teach to
> >> >>>>>>>>> my
> >> >>>>>>>>> IT
> >> >>>>>>>>> employees."'
> >> >>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> >> >>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> >> >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> >> >>>>>>>> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> >> >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> >> >>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> >> >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> >> >>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> >> >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> The above shows Apple ****pped 7,764,000 Macs in
calendar
> >> >>>>>>>> year
> >> >>>>>>>> 2007.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> >> >>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> >> >>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> >> >>>>>>>> Q2'08 Apple ****pped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> The above shows Apple ****pped 2,289, Macs in the
first
> >> >>>>>>>> calender
> >> >>>>>>>> quarter of 2008.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> >> >>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1 million units in the
first
> >> >>>>>>>> quarter
> >> >>>>>>>> of 2008
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to
2008 =
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
> >> >>>>>>> Apple growth Q1'08: 51%
> >> >>>>>>> Overall growth Q1'08: 12%.
> >> >>>>>> Somebody get Alan a math tutor!
> >> >>>>> Mac Q1'08 / Mac Q1' 07 = 1.5088
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Those figures were provided by you, above.
> >> >>>> Where did the other three quarters of 2007 go?
> >> >>> Where did they need to go to compare the year of year growth of
the
> >> >>> Mac
> >> >>> in one quarter to the year of year growth of the overall PC
market in
> >> >>> the same quarter?
> >> >> Then compare to the last quarter of 2007, not the first, asshat.
> >> >> Growth is from quarter to quarter. It doesn't leapfrog over
three
> >> >> quarters of the year.
> >> >
> >> > Your Gartner reference to the overall figures is for first quarter
to
> >> > first quarter, so -- as usual, you're wrong.
> >>
> >> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> >> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
> >>
> >> No, you're the one who's wrong as usual, Edwin.
> >
> > That's only one of the links you provided, Edwin.
> >
> > Read what this one says:
> >
> > <http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619>
> >
> > "Gartner Says Worldwide PC Market Grew 12 Percent in First Quarter of
> > 2008
> >
> > U.S. Recession Had Minimal Disturbance on Global PC ****pments in the
> > Quarter
> >
> > STAMFORD, Conn., April 16, 2008 < Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1
> > million units in the first quarter of 2008, a 12.3 percent increase
from
> > the first quarter of 2007, according to preliminary results by
Gartner,
> > Inc."
>
>
> So when you claim Apples WW marketshare grew 12%, that would be in line
with
> growth of all the other PC's.
I never claimed that, so I can't answer your nonsensical question.
The worldwide PC market grew 12% year of year for the first quarter of
2008 vs 2007.
The Mac market grew 51%.
>
> > snip NEBS
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