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Edwin <thorne25@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 17, 2:21 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > In article <b0d8$482e0397$18...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > In article <ed0e2$482dbc1e$10...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > > Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > > >> Alan Baker wrote:
> > > >>> In article <5aa3d$482dba52$9...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > >>> Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > > >>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> > > >>>>> In article <c3799$482db496$7...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > >>>>> Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > > >>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> In article <5e9bd$482daf22$6...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > >>>>>>> Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > > >>>>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>> In article <mVhXj.9251$hv2.4...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > >>>>>>>>> "weedhopper" <whop...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Impressive!!
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>>>http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8614
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>>> "Apple's global market share is only 3.3 percent among
the
> > > >>>>>>>>>> 69.5
> > > >>>>>>>>>> million
> > > >>>>>>>>>> PC
> > > >>>>>>>>>> ****pped in the March quarter, according to IDC. "
> > > >>>>>>>>> "But that market share tally is up from 2.5 percent in the
> > > >>>>>>>>> March
> > > >>>>>>>>> quarter
> > > >>>>>>>>> a year ago. Why do those Apple gains matter? Those Mac
sales
> > > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > >>>>>>>>> likely
> > > >>>>>>>>> came at the expense of a new Windows machine."
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>> BTW, what is the whole subject of that post?
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>> "Microsoft1s elephant in the OS room: Apple"
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>> The whole thing is about how the Mac is making an impact
into
> > > >>>>>>>>> Microsoft's market.
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>> 'TR1s audience is comprised of the folks that actually
> > > >>>>>>>>> implement
> > > >>>>>>>>> stuff.
> > > >>>>>>>>> It1s not the fanboy crowd. One sample response from an IT
exec:
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>> "I started out as a Windows/Novell man, but now I advocate
for
> > > >>>>>>>>> Mac
> > > >>>>>>>>> purchases and make them as much as I can. Two main reasons
I do
> > > >>>>>>>>> this:
> > > >>>>>>>>> 1)
> > > >>>>>>>>> on the whole, they require less time to sup****t, much less
> > > >>>>>>>>> time,
> > > >>>>>>>>> actually, because the OS runs better and there are fewer
> > > >>>>>>>>> malware
> > > >>>>>>>>> concerns; 2) I practice the philosophy of keeping it
simple.
> > > >>>>>>>>> Mac
> > > >>>>>>>>> software is easy to use and, more im****tantly, easy to
teach to
> > > >>>>>>>>> my
> > > >>>>>>>>> IT
> > > >>>>>>>>> employees."'
> > > >>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> > > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> > > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> > > >>>>>>>> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> > > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> > > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> > > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> > > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> > > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > >>>>>>>> The above shows Apple ****pped 7,764,000 Macs in
calendar
> > > >>>>>>>> year
> > > >>>>>>>> 2007.
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> > > >>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
> >
> > > >>>>>>>> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
> >
> > > >>>>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> > > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> > > >>>>>>>> Q2'08 Apple ****pped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > >>>>>>>> The above shows Apple ****pped 2,289, Macs in the
first
> > > >>>>>>>> calender
> > > >>>>>>>> quarter of 2008.
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> > > >>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1 million units in the
first
> > > >>>>>>>> quarter
> > > >>>>>>>> of 2008
> >
> > > >>>>>>>> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
> >
> > > >>>>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >
> > > >>>>>>>> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to
2008 =
> >
> > > >>>>>>>> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
> > > >>>>>>> Apple growth Q1'08: 51%
> > > >>>>>>> Overall growth Q1'08: 12%.
> > > >>>>>> Somebody get Alan a math tutor!
> > > >>>>> Mac Q1'08 / Mac Q1' 07 = 1.5088
> >
> > > >>>>> Those figures were provided by you, above.
> > > >>>> Where did the other three quarters of 2007 go?
> > > >>> Where did they need to go to compare the year of year growth of
the
> > > >>> Mac
> > > >>> in one quarter to the year of year growth of the overall PC
market in
> > > >>> the same quarter?
> > > >> Then compare to the last quarter of 2007, not the first, asshat.
> > > >> Growth is from quarter to quarter. It doesn't leapfrog over
three
> > > >> quarters of the year.
> >
> > > > Your Gartner reference to the overall figures is for first quarter
to
> > > > first quarter, so -- as usual, you're wrong.
> >
> > >http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> > > Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
> >
> > > No, you're the one who's wrong as usual, Edwin.
> >
> > That's only one of the links you provided, Edwin.
> >
> > Read what this one says:
> >
> > <http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619>
> >
> > "Gartner Says Worldwide PC Market Grew 12 Percent in First Quarter of
> > 2008
> >
> > U.S. Recession Had Minimal Disturbance on Global PC ****pments in the
> > Quarter
> >
> > STAMFORD, Conn., April 16, 2008 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1
> > million units in the first quarter of 2008, a 12.3 percent increase
from
> > the first quarter of 2007, according to preliminary results by
Gartner,
> > Inc."
> >
> > See that? Look carefully now (what am I saying? you always "read very
> > carefully", don't you? LOL):
> >
> > " Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1 million units in the first
quarter
> > of 2008, a 12.3 percent increase from the first quarter of 2007"
> >
> > First quarter 2008 compared to first quarter 2007.
> >
> > See: they do this because sales of products fluctuate seasonally, so
> > that comparing a quarter to the immediately preceding quarter isn't
very
> > useful.
>
> http://www.systemshootouts.org/?q=3Dnode/198
>
> Is that chart useful to you, Alan? Snicker.
"Page not found"
What chart?
>
> > "The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very
carefully" --
> > "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
>
> I see you don't mention this was from a time when the only mention of
> the speaker phone feature was the last two seconds of a flash
> animation.
I see you don't mention that you claim to have "checked very carefully".
Obviously, "checking very carefully" didn't involve simply watching the
flash animations that demo'd the iPhone's features...
>
> But then your reputation for dishonesty is well known.
LOL
--
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"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
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