Re: Apple Global market share

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Edwin <thorne25@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > Do I deny going from 3% to 3% is an increase?   You bet your ass I
do!
> > Too bad for you that you said that it went from a 2.4 to a 3.2% market
> > share,
> How is that bad for me?

Well, you JUST replied that you are citing the market share not
increasing. Contradicting your own statement is bad because it adds to
the points against you.

> > which, no matter how you try to spin it, is a 33% increase.
> 
> "For 1999, Apple ranked eighth in terms of worldwide PC ****pments,
> with 3.4 percent, up from 3.3 percent the previous year. "
Okay -- but why cite ONLY the 1999 figure?
Why not something more relevant, like 2004?

> Umm, no matter how you try to spin it, going from 3.4% of the market
> to 3.2% of the market is not growth.
That figure doesn't show that it is, but it doesn't mean that there
wasn't huge growth. Again, you are trying to define 'growth' only by
market share, which isn't very im****tant in figuring growth.

> "For 1999, Apple ranked eighth in terms of worldwide PC ****pments,
> with 3.4 percent, up from 3.3 percent the previous year. "
Since this is the sixth time I've seen you cite this, I'll ask:
Is Apple still eighth?
If they are higher than eighth, isn't that growth?


Yes, yes. You really seem to believe those charts are hurting people.

How about explaining these:

http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=193400580
2006; IDC says Apple at 5.8 % US market share, Gartner Group says Apple
at 6.1%, both says it's #4 maker.

http://www.dailytech.com/Dell+Chokes+Out+HP+to+Claim+Top+US+PC+Maker+Spo
t/article10374.htm
2007; Apple in fourth with 5.7 % of US sales.

Apple in top 10 of mobile handset makers within a year of first product:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,142943/article.html

Or this one, a look forward in 2004 by Gartner that said PC makers
couldn't expect the 11 percent growth they had previously.
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=10291
> Gartner forecasts that PC growth, by unit, will average at 5.7 per cent
> annually from 2006 to 2008. This is half the 11.3 per cent average
> growth of 2003 to 2005.

Or that there are _so many_ articles about what Apple is doing right,
and what others need to learn from them?:
http://www.macworld.com/article/44340/2005/04/pcmakers.html
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=7408

Or an opinion about how Apple's steadfast planning is so much less
annoying than Microsoft's waffling over critical techs?:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=1757