In article
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Edwin <thorne25@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 18, 12:00 am, David Fritzinger
> <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > In article
> > <ebb35330-ea4f-4af3-ae57-7f148c10a...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > On May 17, 9:19 pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > >
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> >
> > > > Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > On May 17, 7:57 pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > > On May 17, 3:03 pm, David Fritzinger
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> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > >
<ee4e47a0-f7c1-490c-940e-583ca6f98...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > om>,
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> > > > > > > > Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On May 17, 2:21 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > In article <b0d8$482e0397$18...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > In article
<ed0e2$482dbc1e$10...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > [snipping lots of stuff to save bandwidth]
> >
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> > > > > > > > > > First quarter 2008 compared to first quarter 2007.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > See: they do this because sales of products fluctuate
> > > > > > > > > > seasonally,
> > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > that comparing a quarter to the immediately preceding
> > > > > > > > > > quarter
> > > > > > > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > > useful.
> >
> > > > > > > > > You found another "Edwin," did you? ROTFLMAO!!!
> >
> > > > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> > > > > > > > > fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> > > > > > > > > Apple ****pped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=503816
> > > > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., April 18, 2007 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments
> > > > > > > > > totaled
> > > > > > > > > 62.7
> > > > > > > > > million units in the first quarter of 2007
> >
> > > > > > > > > 1,517,000/62,700,000 = 0.0241
> >
> > > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q1'07 = 2.41%
> >
> > > > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> > > > > > > > > 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> > > > > > > > > Apple ****pped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=509905
> > > > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., July 18, 2007 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments
> > > > > > > > > totaled
> > > > > > > > > 61.1
> > > > > > > > > million units in the second quarter of 2007
> >
> > > > > > > > > 1,764,000/61,100,000 = 0.0288
> >
> > > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q2'07 = 2.88%
> >
> > > > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> > > > > > > > > fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> > > > > > > > > Apple ****pped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=532712
> > > > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., October 17, 2007 Ğ Worldwide PC
****pments
> > > > > > > > > totaled
> > > > > > > > > 68.5 million units in the third quarter of 2007
> >
> > > > > > > > > 2,164,000/68,500,000 = 0.0315
> >
> > > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q3'07 = 3.15%
> >
> > > > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> > > > > > > > > fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> > > > > > > > > Apple ****pped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> > > > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., January 16, 2008 Ğ Worldwide PC
****pments
> > > > > > > > > totaled
> > > > > > > > > 271.2 million units in 2007, a 13.4 percent increase
from
> > > > > > > > > 2006,
> > > > > > > > > according to preliminary results by Gartner, Inc. The
> > > > > > > > > industry
> > > > > > > > > ended
> > > > > > > > > the year with fourth quarter PC ****pments of 75.9
million
> > > > > > > > > units
> >
> > > > > > > > > 2,319,000/75,900,000 = 0.0305
> >
> > > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q4'07 = 3.05%
> >
> > > > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> > > > > > > > > fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> > > > > > > > > Q2'08 Apple ****pped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> > > > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., April 16, 2008 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments
> > > > > > > > > totaled
> > > > > > > > > 71.1
> > > > > > > > > million units in the first quarter of 2008
> >
> > > > > > > > > 2,289,000/71,100,000 = 0.0321
> >
> > > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >
> > > > > > > > > Summary:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q1'07 = 2.41%
> >
> > > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q2'07 = 2.88%
> >
> > > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q3'07 = 3.15%
> >
> > > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q4'07 = 3.05%
> >
> > > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >
> > > > > > > > > Q1'07 compared to Q1'08
> >
> > > > > > > > > Mac gain in worldwide market share = 0.8%
> >
> > > > > > > > > You're welcome, Alan!
> >
> > > > > > > > Of course you realize that, using your figures, Apple's
market
> > > > > > > > share
> > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > increased by 33%.
> >
> > > > > > > Not buy using my figures. Apple is stuck at about 3% of
the
> > > > > > > market,
> > > > > > > they're nowhere near 33% of the market.
> >
> > > > > > Now, try reading for content. Nowhere did I say that they were
> > > > > > anywhere
> > > > > > near 33% of the market. What I did say is that their market
share
> > > > > > increased by 33%, from 2.4 to 3.2%.
> >
> > > > > IOW, it's stuck at about 3% of the market, just like it has been
for
> > > > > at least the last ten years.
> >
> > > > But, as you have shown, and I have demonstrated, it is increasing.
Do
> > > > you deny that?
> >
> > > Do I deny going from 3% to 3% is an increase? You bet your ass I
do!
> >
> > Too bad for you that you said that it went from a 2.4 to a 3.2% market
> > share,
>
> How is that bad for me?
It made you look like a fool...
>
> > which, no matter how you try to spin it, is a 33% increase.
>
> "For 1999, Apple ranked eighth in terms of worldwide PC ****pments,
> with 3.4 percent, up from 3.3 percent the previous year. "
>
>
http://www.news.com/Apple-beats-expectations,-splits-stock/2100-1001_3-23949=
> 9.html
>
> At 3.2%, Apple hasn't even recovered its 3.4% level from 1999.
>
> How much of a decrease is it to go down from 3.4% to 3.2%, Dave?
Drag those goalposts much, Edwin? As you (should) know, we were talking
about a 1 year increase of 33%, which apparently really bugged you, so
you had to drag up this ancient data.
>
> Snicker.
>
Yes, Edwin, you are (unintentionally) rather humerous.
>
> >
> > > > > > > > Is that really what you wanted to say?
> >
> > > > > > > Not in any shape or form. I prefer Apple's position in the
> > > > > > > market
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > opposed to your figure of Apple against itself.
> >
> > > > > > Would you mind writing that in English next time?
> >
> > > > > Take a remedial reading course.
> >
> > > > I believe you should take an English Composition course, as your
> > > > sentence is nonsensical.
> >
> > > See what I mean?
> >
> > Yup, you seem to be English compositionally challenged...
> > 8^)
>
> To a loon like you.
Edwin, I keep telling you that your foolish insults don't help your
cause, and only make you look childish.
>
>
> >
> > > > > > > > BTW, why is it that your posts have a strange resemblance
to
> > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > Glorb, Mr. X, and Hasta la Vista?
> >
> > > > > > > The truth is the truth no matter who posts it. You
probably
> > > > > > > recognize all our posts as being the opposite of the
bullsh*t you
> > > > > > > post.
> >
> > > > > > I have posted no BS, Glorb/Mr.X/err Hasta la Vista/err Edwin.
> >
> > > > > You post nothing but B.S., idiot/moron/err sh*thead/err Dave.
> >
> > > > Having lost the argument, Edwin turns to insults. Same old
Edwin...
> >
> > > Same old Crazy Dave Fritzinger, acts like a moron, gets called a
> > > moron, and then declares victory.
> >
> > Same old Edwin. Having been proven to be wrong (using the figures he
> > provided this time, no less) Edwin has nothing left but empty insults.
>
> Same old Crazy Dave Fritzinger, acting like a moron, then whining
> about being called a moron, then declaring victory for himself because
> he got what he deserved.
Lacking anything rational to say, Edwin piles on the insults. Pitiful...
>
> >
> > > > > > I used
> > > > > > your figures and showed you that the Mac marketshare has
increased
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > 33%. Note, I didn't say it increased *to* 33%, but that the
Mac
> > > > > > market
> > > > > > share increased *by* 33%. Do you understand the difference?
From
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > blathering you have been doing, it is apparent that you do
not.
> >
> > > > > The truth has become blathering to Dave"Moron"Fritzinger.
> >
> > > > It is noted that Edwin is unable to refute what I wrote, so he is
> > > > turning to insults, as usual Same old Edwin...
> >
> > > Crazy Dave Fritzinger has gone to declaring victory and whining
after
> > > acting like a moron and being told he's one after he did.
> >
> > No, Edwin. You declared victory for me, the minute you stopped
> > responding to the substance of my posts,
>
> The substance of your posts is moronic claims.
Dig that hole deeper, Edwin.
>
> > and started throwing out (lame)
> > insults.
>
> IOW, I called a spade a spade.
>
> You lost the argument as soon as you started posting your usual stupid
> drivel.
Poor Edwin. He so hates to lose, but, alas, that is all he ever seems to
do...
>
> > > > > Apple's market share is stuck at 3%, no matter how you contrive
a
> > > > > "33%
> > > > > gain."
> >
> > > > I showed the math, Edwin. I used your figures, and showed that the
Mac
> > > > market share increased by 33%. If you can't understand the math,
> > > > perhaps
> > > > you should take a remedial math course as well.
> >
> > > Crazy Dave Fritzinger needs to show how going from 3% to 3%
represents
> > > a 33% increase.
> >
> > Umm, no matter how you try to spin it, 2.4% doesn't get rounded up to
> > 3%. Meaning that you are wrong, again.
>
> Umm, no matter how you try to spin it, going from 3.4% of the market
> to 3.2% of the market is not growth.
As Edwin drags those goalposts yet again..
>
> "For 1999, Apple ranked eighth in terms of worldwide PC ****pments,
> with 3.4 percent, up from 3.3 percent the previous year. "
>
>
http://www.news.com/Apple-beats-expectations,-splits-stock/2100-1001_3-23949=
> 9.html
>
>
> > Perhaps you should hope for the return of Glorb...
> > LOL
>
> Perhaps you ought to pay a visit to the Wizard of Oz and ask for the
> same thing the Scarecrow wanted.
Why? I certainly have you chasing your own tail.
LOL
>
> In the meantime, read this chart and weep:
>
> http://www.systemshootouts.org/?q=3Dnode/198
Why should I weep? Apple is doing just fine, and their market share is
up 33% over the last year. I'm quite happy.
You, however, seem to be getting more and more desperate. Why?
--
Dave Fritzinger
Honolulu, HI
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