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Re: Apple Global market share

by Edwin <thorne25@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 18, 2008 at 03:49 AM

On May 17, 2:21=A0am, Alan Baker <alangba...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> In article <b0d8$482e0397$18...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Alan Baker wrote:
> > > In article <ed0e2$482dbc1e$10...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > =A0Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > >> Alan Baker wrote:
> > >>> In article <5aa3d$482dba52$9...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > >>> =A0Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > >>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> > >>>>> In article <c3799$482db496$7...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > >>>>> =A0Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> > >>>>>>> In article <5e9bd$482daf22$6...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > >>>>>>> =A0Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> In article <mVhXj.9251$hv2.4...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > >>>>>>>>> =A0"weedhopper" <whop...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Impressive!!
>
> > >>>>>>>>>>http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=3D8614
>
> > >>>>>>>>>> "Apple's global market share is only 3.3 percent among the
69=
..5
> > >>>>>>>>>> million
> > >>>>>>>>>> PC
> > >>>>>>>>>> ****pped in the March quarter, according to IDC. "
> > >>>>>>>>> "But that market share tally is up from 2.5 percent in the
Mar=
ch
> > >>>>>>>>> quarter
> > >>>>>>>>> a year ago. Why do those Apple gains matter? Those Mac sales
m=
ost
> > >>>>>>>>> likely
> > >>>>>>>>> came at the expense of a new Windows machine."
>
> > >>>>>>>>> BTW, what is the whole subject of that post?
>
> > >>>>>>>>> "Microsoft=B9s elephant in the OS room: Apple"
>
> > >>>>>>>>> The whole thing is about how the Mac is making an impact
into
> > >>>>>>>>> Microsoft's market.
>
> > >>>>>>>>> 'TR=B9s audience is comprised of the folks that actually
imple=
ment
> > >>>>>>>>> stuff.
> > >>>>>>>>> It=B9s not the fanboy crowd. One sample response from an IT
ex=
ec:
>
> > >>>>>>>>> "I started out as a Windows/Novell man, but now I advocate
for=
 Mac
> > >>>>>>>>> purchases and make them as much as I can. Two main reasons I
d=
o
> > >>>>>>>>> this:
> > >>>>>>>>> 1)
> > >>>>>>>>> on the whole, they require less time to sup****t, much less
tim=
e,
> > >>>>>>>>> actually, because the OS runs better and there are fewer
malwa=
re
> > >>>>>>>>> concerns; 2) I practice the philosophy of keeping it simple.
M=
ac
> > >>>>>>>>> software is easy to use and, more im****tantly, easy to teach
t=
o my
> > >>>>>>>>> IT
> > >>>>>>>>> employees."'
> > >>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,517,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > >>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> > >>>>>>>> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,764,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > >>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,164,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > >>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,319,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0The above shows Apple ****pped 7,764,000 Macs in
cale=
ndar year
> > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02007.
>
> > >>>>>>>>http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D584210
> > >>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>
> > >>>>>>>> 7,764,000/271,200,000 =3D .0286
>
> > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mac worldwide market share for 2007 =3D
2.86=
 %
>
> > >>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> > >>>>>>>> Q2'08 Apple ****pped 2,289,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0The above shows Apple ****pped 2,289, Macs
in=
 the first
> > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0calender
> > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0quarter of 2008.
>
> > >>>>>>>>http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D648619
> > >>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1 million units in the
first
> > >>>>>>>> quarter
> > >>>>>>>> of 2008
>
> > >>>>>>>> 2,289,000/71,100,000 =3D .0321
>
> > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 =3D
3.2=
1%
>
> > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mac gain in worldwide market share from
2007=
 to 2008 =3D
>
> > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.0321 - .0286 =3D =A00.0035%
=A0=
or =A00.35%
> > >>>>>>> Apple growth Q1'08: 51%
> > >>>>>>> Overall growth Q1'08: 12%.
> > >>>>>> Somebody get Alan a math tutor!
> > >>>>> Mac Q1'08 / Mac Q1' 07 =3D 1.5088
>
> > >>>>> Those figures were provided by you, above.
> > >>>> Where did the other three quarters of 2007 go?
> > >>> Where did they need to go to compare the year of year growth of
the =
Mac
> > >>> in one quarter to the year of year growth of the overall PC market
i=
n
> > >>> the same quarter?
> > >> Then compare to the last quarter of 2007, not the first, asshat.
> > >> Growth is from quarter to quarter. =A0 It doesn't leapfrog over
three=

> > >> quarters of the year.
>
> > > Your Gartner reference to the overall figures is for first quarter
to
> > > first quarter, so -- as usual, you're wrong.
>
> >http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D584210
> > Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>
> > No, you're the one who's wrong as usual, Edwin.
>
> That's only one of the links you provided, Edwin.
>
> Read what this one says:
>
> <http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D648619>
>
> "Gartner Says Worldwide PC Market Grew 12 Percent in First Quarter of
> 2008
>
> U.S. Recession Had Minimal Disturbance on Global PC ****pments in the
> Quarter
>
> STAMFORD, Conn., April=A016, 2008 =8B Worldwide PC ****pments totaled
71.1
> million units in the first quarter of 2008, a 12.3 percent increase from
> the first quarter of 2007, according to preliminary results by Gartner,
> Inc."
>
> See that? Look carefully now (what am I saying? you always "read very
> carefully", don't you? LOL):
>
> " Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
> of 2008, a 12.3 percent increase from the first quarter of 2007"
>
> First quarter 2008 compared to first quarter 2007.
>
> See: they do this because sales of products fluctuate seasonally, so
> that comparing a quarter to the immediately preceding quarter isn't very
> useful.

http://www.systemshootouts.org/?q=3D3Dnode/198

Is that chart useful to you, Alan?   Snicker.

> "The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully"
--=

> "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone

I see you don't mention this was from a time when the only mention of
the speaker phone feature was the last two seconds of a flash
animation.

But then your reputation for dishonesty is well known.
 




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