On May 18, 12:00=A0am, David Fritzinger
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> In article
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> =A0Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On May 17, 9:19=A0pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > In article
> > > <9387cb62-0244-4150-8ec3-c598d9aa5...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > =A0Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On May 17, 7:57=A0pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > In article
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> > > > > =A0Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > On May 17, 3:03=A0pm, David Fritzinger
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> > > > > > > In article
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> > > > > > > =A0Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > On May 17, 2:21=A0am, Alan Baker <alangba...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > In article <b0d8$482e0397$18...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > =A0Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > > Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > In article <ed0e2$482dbc1e$10...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > > > =A0Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > First quarter 2008 compared to first quarter 2007.
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> > > > > > > > > See: they do this because sales of products fluctuate
> > > > > > > > > seasonally,
> > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > that comparing a quarter to the immediately preceding
quar=
ter
> > > > > > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > useful.
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> > > > > > > > You found another "Edwin," did you? =A0 ROTFLMAO!!!
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> > > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> > > > > > > > fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> > > > > > > > Apple ****pped 1,517,000 Macintosh=AE computers
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> > > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D503816
> > > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., April 18, 2007 =D0 Worldwide PC ****pments
t=
otaled
> > > > > > > > 62.7
> > > > > > > > million units in the first quarter of 2007
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> > > > > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1,517,000/62,700,000 =3D 0.0241
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> > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q1'07 =3D 2.41%
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> > > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> > > > > > > > 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> > > > > > > > Apple ****pped 1,764,000 Macintosh=AE computers
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> > > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D509905
> > > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., July 18, 2007 =D0 Worldwide PC ****pments
to=
taled
> > > > > > > > 61.1
> > > > > > > > million units in the second quarter of 2007
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> > > > > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01,764,000/61,100,000 =3D 0.0288
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> > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q2'07 =3D 2.88%
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> > > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> > > > > > > > fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> > > > > > > > Apple ****pped 2,164,000 Macintosh=AE computers
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> > > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D532712
> > > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., October 17, 2007 =D0 Worldwide PC
****pments=
> > > > > > > > totaled
> > > > > > > > 68.5 million units in the third quarter of 2007
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> > > > > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 2,164,000/68,500,000 =3D 0.0315
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> > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q3'07 =3D 3.15%
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> > > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> > > > > > > > fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> > > > > > > > Apple ****pped 2,319,000 Macintosh=AE computers
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> > > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D584210
> > > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., January 16, 2008 =D0 Worldwide PC
****pments=
> > > > > > > > totaled
> > > > > > > > 271.2 million units in 2007, a 13.4 percent increase from
20=
06,
> > > > > > > > according to preliminary results by Gartner, Inc. The
indust=
ry
> > > > > > > > ended
> > > > > > > > the year with fourth quarter PC ****pments of 75.9 million
un=
its
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> > > > > > > > =A0 =A0 =A02,319,000/75,900,000 =3D 0.0305
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> > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q4'07 =3D 3.05%
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> > > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> > > > > > > > fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> > > > > > > > Q2'08 Apple ****pped 2,289,000 Macintosh=AE computers
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> > > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D648619
> > > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., April 16, 2008 =D0 Worldwide PC ****pments
t=
otaled
> > > > > > > > 71.1
> > > > > > > > million units in the first quarter of 2008
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> > > > > > > > =A0 =A0 =A02,289,000/71,100,000 =3D 0.0321
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> > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q1'08 =3D 3.21%
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> > > > > > > > Summary:
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> > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q1'07 =3D 2.41%
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> > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q2'07 =3D 2.88%
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> > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q3'07 =3D 3.15%
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> > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q4'07 =3D 3.05%
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> > > > > > > > Mac worldwide market share Q1'08 =3D 3.21%
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> > > > > > > > Q1'07 compared to Q1'08
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> > > > > > > > Mac gain in worldwide market share =3D 0.8%
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> > > > > > > > You're welcome, Alan!
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> > > > > > > Of course you realize that, using your figures, Apple's
market=
> > > > > > > share
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > increased by 33%.
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> > > > > > Not buy using my figures. =A0 Apple is stuck at about 3% of
the =
market,
> > > > > > they're nowhere near 33% of the market.
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> > > > > Now, try reading for content. Nowhere did I say that they were
any=
where
> > > > > near 33% of the market. What I did say is that their market
share
> > > > > increased by 33%, from 2.4 to 3.2%.
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> > > > IOW, it's stuck at about 3% of the market, just like it has been
for=
> > > > at least the last ten years.
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> > > But, as you have shown, and I have demonstrated, it is increasing.
Do
> > > you deny that?
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> > Do I deny going from 3% to 3% is an increase? =A0 You bet your ass I
do!=
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> Too bad for you that you said that it went from a 2.4 to a 3.2% market
> share,
How is that bad for me?
> which, no matter how you try to spin it, is a 33% increase.
"For 1999, Apple ranked eighth in terms of worldwide PC ****pments,
with 3.4 percent, up from 3.3 percent the previous year. "
http://www.news.com/Apple-beats-expectations,-splits-stock/2100-1001_3-23949=
=3D
9.html
At 3.2%, Apple hasn't even recovered its 3.4% level from 1999.
How much of a decrease is it to go down from 3.4% to 3.2%, Dave?
Snicker.
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> > > > > > > Is that really what you wanted to say?
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> > > > > > Not in any shape or form. =A0 I prefer Apple's position in the
m=
arket
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > opposed to your figure of Apple against itself.
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> > > > > Would you mind writing that in English next time?
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> > > > Take a remedial reading course.
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> > > I believe =A0you should take an English Composition course, as your
> > > sentence is nonsensical.
>
> > See what I mean?
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> Yup, you seem to be English compositionally challenged...
> 8^)
To a loon like you.
>
> > > > > > > BTW, why is it that your posts have a strange resemblance to
t=
hose
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > Glorb, Mr. X, and Hasta la Vista?
>
> > > > > > The truth is the truth no matter who posts it. =A0 You
probably
> > > > > > recognize all our posts as being the opposite of the bullsh*t
yo=
u
> > > > > > post.
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> > > > > I have posted no BS, Glorb/Mr.X/err Hasta la Vista/err Edwin.
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> > > > You post nothing but B.S., idiot/moron/err sh*thead/err Dave.
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> > > Having lost the argument, Edwin turns to insults. Same old Edwin...
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> > Same old Crazy Dave Fritzinger, acts like a moron, gets called a
> > moron, and then declares victory.
>
> Same old Edwin. Having been proven to be wrong (using the figures he
> provided this time, no less) Edwin has nothing left but empty insults.
Same old Crazy Dave Fritzinger, acting like a moron, then whining
about being called a moron, then declaring victory for himself because
he got what he deserved.
>
> > > > > I used
> > > > > your figures and showed you that the Mac marketshare has
increased=
by
> > > > > 33%. Note, I didn't say it increased *to* 33%, but that the Mac
ma=
rket
> > > > > share increased *by* 33%. Do you understand the difference? From
t=
he
> > > > > blathering you have been doing, it is apparent that you do not.
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> > > > The truth has become blathering to Dave"Moron"Fritzinger.
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> > > It is noted that Edwin is unable to refute what I wrote, so he is
> > > turning to insults, as usual Same old Edwin...
>
> > Crazy Dave Fritzinger has gone to declaring victory and whining after
> > acting like a moron and being told he's one after he did.
>
> No, Edwin. You declared victory for me, the minute you stopped
> responding to the substance of my posts,
The substance of your posts is moronic claims.
> and started throwing out (lame)
> insults.
IOW, I called a spade a spade.
You lost the argument as soon as you started posting your usual stupid
drivel.
> > > > Apple's market share is stuck at 3%, no matter how you contrive a
"3=
3%
> > > > gain."
>
> > > I showed the math, Edwin. I used your figures, and showed that the
Mac=
> > > market share increased by 33%. If you can't understand the math,
perha=
ps
> > > you should take a remedial math course as well.
>
> > Crazy Dave Fritzinger needs to show how going from 3% to 3% represents
> > a 33% increase.
>
> Umm, no matter how you try to spin it, 2.4% doesn't get rounded up to
> 3%. Meaning that you are wrong, again.
Umm, no matter how you try to spin it, going from 3.4% of the market
to 3.2% of the market is not growth.
"For 1999, Apple ranked eighth in terms of worldwide PC ****pments,
with 3.4 percent, up from 3.3 percent the previous year. "
http://www.news.com/Apple-beats-expectations,-splits-stock/2100-1001_3-23949=
=3D
9.html
> Perhaps you should hope for the return of Glorb...
> LOL
Perhaps you ought to pay a visit to the Wizard of Oz and ask for the
same thing the Scarecrow wanted.
In the meantime, read this chart and weep:
http://www.systemshootouts.org/?q=3D3Dnode/198
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