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Edwin <thorne25@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 17, 9:19 pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > In article
> > <9387cb62-0244-4150-8ec3-c598d9aa5...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >
> > Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > On May 17, 7:57 pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > >
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> >
> > > > Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > On May 17, 3:03 pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > >
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> >
> > > > > > Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > > On May 17, 2:21 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article <b0d8$482e0397$18...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >
> > > > > > > > Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > In article <ed0e2$482dbc1e$10...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > > Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
[snipping lots of stuff to save bandwidth]
> > > > > > > > First quarter 2008 compared to first quarter 2007.
> >
> > > > > > > > See: they do this because sales of products fluctuate
> > > > > > > > seasonally,
> > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > that comparing a quarter to the immediately preceding
quarter
> > > > > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > useful.
> >
> > > > > > > You found another "Edwin," did you? ROTFLMAO!!!
> >
> > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> > > > > > > fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> > > > > > > Apple ****pped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=503816
> > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., April 18, 2007 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments
totaled
> > > > > > > 62.7
> > > > > > > million unitsin the first quarter of 2007
> >
> > > > > > > 1,517,000/62,700,000 = 0.0241
> >
> > > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q1'07 = 2.41%
> >
> > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> > > > > > > 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> > > > > > > Apple ****pped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=509905
> > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., July 18, 2007 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments
totaled
> > > > > > > 61.1
> > > > > > > million units in the second quarter of 2007
> >
> > > > > > > 1,764,000/61,100,000 = 0.0288
> >
> > > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q2'07 = 2.88%
> >
> > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> > > > > > > fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> > > > > > > Apple ****pped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=532712
> > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., October 17, 2007 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments
> > > > > > > totaled
> > > > > > > 68.5 million units in the third quarter of 2007
> >
> > > > > > > 2,164,000/68,500,000 = 0.0315
> >
> > > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q3'07 = 3.15%
> >
> > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> > > > > > > fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> > > > > > > Apple ****pped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., January 16, 2008 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments
> > > > > > > totaled
> > > > > > > 271.2 million units in 2007, a 13.4 percent increase from
2006,
> > > > > > > according to preliminary results by Gartner, Inc. The
industry
> > > > > > > ended
> > > > > > > the year with fourth quarter PC ****pments of 75.9 million
units
> >
> > > > > > > 2,319,000/75,900,000 = 0.0305
> >
> > > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q4'07 = 3.05%
> >
> > > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> > > > > > > fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> > > > > > > Q2'08 Apple ****pped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., April 16, 2008 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments
totaled
> > > > > > > 71.1
> > > > > > > million units in the first quarter of 2008
> >
> > > > > > > 2,289,000/71,100,000 = 0.0321
> >
> > > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >
> > > > > > > Summary:
> >
> > > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q1'07 = 2.41%
> >
> > > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q2'07 = 2.88%
> >
> > > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q3'07 = 3.15%
> >
> > > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q4'07 = 3.05%
> >
> > > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >
> > > > > > > Q1'07 comparted to Q1'08
> >
> > > > > > > Mac gain in worldwide market share = 0.8%
> >
> > > > > > > You're welcome, Alan!
> >
> > > > > > Of course you realize that, using your figures, Apple's market
> > > > > > share
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > increased by 33%.
> >
> > > > > Not buy using my figures. Apple is stuck at about 3% of the
market,
> > > > > they're nowhere near 33% of the market.
> >
> > > > Now, try reading for content. Nowhere did I say that they were
anywhere
> > > > near 33% of the market. What I did say is that their market share
> > > > increased by 33%, from 2.4 to 3.2%.
> >
> > > IOW, it's stuck at about 3% of the market, just like it has been for
> > > at least the last ten years.
> >
> > But, as you have shown, and I have demonstrated, it is increasing. Do
> > you deny that?
>
> Do I deny going from 3% to 3% is an increase? You bet your ass I do!
Too bad for you that you said that it went from a 2.4 to a 3.2% market
share, which, no matter how you try to spin it, is a 33% increase.
>
> >
> > > > > > Is that really what you wanted to say?
> >
> > > > > Not in any shape or form. I prefer Apple's position in the
market
> > > > > as
> > > > > opposed to your figure of Apple against itself.
> >
> > > > Would you mind writing that in English next time?
> >
> > > Take a remedial reading course.
> >
> > I believe you should take an English Composition course, as your
> > sentence is nonsensical.
>
> See what I mean?
Yup, you seem to be English compositionally challenged...
8^)
>
> >
> > > > > > BTW, why is it that your posts have a strange resemblance to
those
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > Glorb, Mr. X, and Hasta la Vista?
> >
> > > > > The truth is the truth no matter who posts it. You probably
> > > > > recognize all our posts as being the opposite of the bullsh*t
you
> > > > > post.
> >
> > > > I have posted no BS, Glorb/Mr.X/err Hasta la Vista/err Edwin.
> >
> > > You post nothing but B.S., idiot/moron/err sh*thead/err Dave.
> >
> > Having lost the argument, Edwin turns to insults. Same old Edwin...
>
> Same old Crazy Dave Fritzinger, acts like a moron, gets called a
> moron, and then declares victory.
Same old Edwin. Having been proven to be wrong (using the figures he
provided this time, no less) Edwin has nothing left but empty insults.
>
> >
> > > > I used
> > > > your figures and showed you that the Mac marketshare has increased
by
> > > > 33%. Note, I didn't say it increased *to* 33%, but that the Mac
market
> > > > share increased *by* 33%. Do you understand the difference? From
the
> > > > blathering you have been doing, it is apparent that you do not.
> >
> > > The truth has become blathering to Dave"Moron"Fritzinger.
> >
> > It is noted that Edwin is unable to refute what I wrote, so he is
> > turning to insults, as usual Same old Edwin...
>
> Crazy Dave Fritzinger has gone to declaring victory and whining after
> acting like a moron and being told he's one after he did.
No, Edwin. You declared victory for me, the minute you stopped
responding to the substance of my posts, and started throwing out (lame)
insults.
>
> > > Apple's market share is stuck at 3%, no matter how you contrive a
"33%
> > > gain."
> >
> > I showed the math, Edwin. I used your figures, and showed that the Mac
> > market share increased by 33%. If you can't understand the math,
perhaps
> > you should take a remedial math course as well.
>
> Crazy Dave Fritzinger needs to show how going from 3% to 3% represents
> a 33% increase.
Umm, no matter how you try to spin it, 2.4% doesn't get rounded up to
3%. Meaning that you are wrong, again.
Perhaps you should hope for the return of Glorb...
LOL
--
Dave Fritzinger
Honolulu, HI


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