On May 17, 9:19=A0pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> In article
> <9387cb62-0244-4150-8ec3-c598d9aa5...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>
> =A0Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > On May 17, 7:57=A0pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <f9cba5ce-0a1e-4981-a741-b6e32cd72...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>
> > > =A0Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > On May 17, 3:03=A0pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wro=
te:
> > > > > In article
> > > > >
<ee4e47a0-f7c1-490c-940e-583ca6f98...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>
> > > > > =A0Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > On May 17, 2:21=A0am, Alan Baker <alangba...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > > In article <b0d8$482e0397$18...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>
> > > > > > > =A0Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > In article <ed0e2$482dbc1e$10...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > > > > > > > =A0Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >> Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>> In article <5aa3d$482dba52$9...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > > > > > > >>> =A0Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>> In article <c3799$482db496$7...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > > > > > > >>>>> =A0Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> In article
<5e9bd$482daf22$6...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> =A0Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> In article
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <mVhXj.9251$hv2.4...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> =A0"weedhopper" <whop...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Impressive!!
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=3D8614
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> "Apple's global market share is only 3.3
percent =
among
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 69.5
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> million
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> PC
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> ****pped in the March quarter, according to IDC.
"=
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> "But that market share tally is up from 2.5
percen=
t in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> March
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> quarter
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> a year ago. Why do those Apple gains matter?
Those=
Mac
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> sales
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> likely
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> came at the expense of a new Windows machine."
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> BTW, what is the whole subject of that post?
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> "Microsoft1s elephant in the OS room: Apple"
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> The whole thing is about how the Mac is making
an
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> impact
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> into
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Microsoft's market.
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 'TR1s audience is comprised of the folks that
actu=
ally
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> implement
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> stuff.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> It1s not the fanboy crowd. One sample response
fro=
m an
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> IT
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> exec:
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> "I started out as a Windows/Novell man, but now
I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> advocate
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Mac
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> purchases and make them as much as I can. Two
main=
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> reasons
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I do
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 1)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> on the whole, they require less time to sup****t,
m=
uch
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> less
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> time,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> actually, because the OS runs better and there
are=
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> fewer
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> malware
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> concerns; 2) I practice the philosophy of
keeping =
it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> simple.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Mac
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> software is easy to use and, more im****tantly,
eas=
y to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> teach to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> my
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> IT
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> employees."'
> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.ht=
ml
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,517,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.ht=
ml
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,764,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.ht=
ml
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29,
2007=
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,164,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.ht=
ml
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,319,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0The above shows Apple ****pped
7,764,000 =
Macs in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> calendar
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> year
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02007.
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D584210
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million
units =
in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2007
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 7,764,000/271,200,000 =3D .0286
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mac worldwide market share for
2=
007 =3D 2.86 %
>
> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.ht=
ml
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Q2'08 Apple ****pped 2,289,000 Macintosh=AE
computer=
s
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0The above shows Apple ****pped
2,=
289, Macs in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> first
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0calender
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0quarter of 2008.
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D648619
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1 million units
i=
n the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> first
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> quarter
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> of 2008
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2,289,000/71,100,000 =3D .0321
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mac worldwide market share for
Q=
1'08 =3D 3.21%
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mac gain in worldwide market
sha=
re from 2007 to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2008 =3D
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.0321 - .0286 =3D
=
=A00.0035% =A0or =A00.35%
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Apple growth Q1'08: 51%
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Overall growth Q1'08: 12%.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Somebody get Alan a math tutor!
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Mac Q1'08 / Mac Q1' 07 =3D 1.5088
>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Those figures were provided by you, above.
> > > > > > > > >>>> Where did the other three quarters of 2007 go?
> > > > > > > > >>> Where did they need to go to compare the year of year
gr=
owth
> > > > > > > > >>> of
> > > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > > >>> Mac
> > > > > > > > >>> in one quarter to the year of year growth of the
overall=
PC
> > > > > > > > >>> market in
> > > > > > > > >>> the same quarter?
> > > > > > > > >> Then compare to the last quarter of 2007, not the
first,
> > > > > > > > >> asshat.
> > > > > > > > >> Growth is from quarter to quarter. =A0 It doesn't
leapfro=
g over
> > > > > > > > >> three
> > > > > > > > >> quarters of the year.
>
> > > > > > > > > Your Gartner reference to the overall figures is for
first=
> > > > > > > > > quarter
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > first quarter, so -- as usual, you're wrong.
>
> > > > > > > >http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D584210
> > > > > > > > Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>
> > > > > > > > No, you're the one who's wrong as usual, Edwin.
>
> > > > > > > That's only one of the links you provided, Edwin.
>
> > > > > > > Read what this one says:
>
> > > > > > > <http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D648619>
>
> > > > > > > "Gartner Says Worldwide PC Market Grew 12 Percent in First
Qua=
rter
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > 2008
>
> > > > > > > U.S. Recession Had Minimal Disturbance on Global PC
****pments =
in
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Quarter
>
> > > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., April=A016, 2008 <ETH> Worldwide PC
****pments=
> > > > > > > totaled
> > > > > > > 71.1
> > > > > > > million units in the first quarter of 2008, a 12.3 percent
inc=
rease
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > the first quarter of 2007, according to preliminary results
by=
> > > > > > > Gartner,
> > > > > > > Inc."
>
> > > > > > > See that? Look carefully now (what am I saying? you always
"re=
ad
> > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > carefully", don't you? LOL):
>
> > > > > > > " Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1 million units in the
fir=
st
> > > > > > > quarter
> > > > > > > of 2008, a 12.3 percent increase from the first quarter of
200=
7"
>
> > > > > > > First quarter 2008 compared to first quarter 2007.
>
> > > > > > > See: they do this because sales of products fluctuate
seasonal=
ly,
> > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > that comparing a quarter to the immediately preceding
quarter =
isn't
> > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > useful.
>
> > > > > > You found another "Edwin," did you? =A0 ROTFLMAO!!!
>
> > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> > > > > > fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> > > > > > Apple ****pped 1,517,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D503816
> > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., April 18, 2007 =D0 Worldwide PC ****pments
total=
ed 62.7
> > > > > > million unitsin the first quarter of 2007
>
> > > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1,517,000/62,700,000 =3D 0.0241
>
> > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q1'07 =3D 2.41%
>
> > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> > > > > > 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> > > > > > Apple ****pped 1,764,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D509905
> > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., July 18, 2007 =D0 Worldwide PC ****pments
totale=
d 61.1
> > > > > > million units in the second quarter of 2007
>
> > > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01,764,000/61,100,000 =3D 0.0288
>
> > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q2'07 =3D 2.88%
>
> > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> > > > > > fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> > > > > > Apple ****pped 2,164,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D532712
> > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., October 17, 2007 =D0 Worldwide PC ****pments
tot=
aled
> > > > > > 68.5 million units in the third quarter of 2007
>
> > > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 2,164,000/68,500,000 =3D 0.0315
>
> > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q3'07 =3D 3.15%
>
> > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> > > > > > fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> > > > > > Apple ****pped 2,319,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D584210
> > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., January 16, 2008 =D0 Worldwide PC ****pments
tot=
aled
> > > > > > 271.2 million units in 2007, a 13.4 percent increase from
2006,
> > > > > > according to preliminary results by Gartner, Inc. The industry
e=
nded
> > > > > > the year with fourth quarter PC ****pments of 75.9 million
units
>
> > > > > > =A0 =A0 =A02,319,000/75,900,000 =3D 0.0305
>
> > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q4'07 =3D 3.05%
>
> > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> > > > > > fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> > > > > > Q2'08 Apple ****pped 2,289,000 Macintosh=AE computers
>
> > > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=3D648619
> > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., April 16, 2008 =D0 Worldwide PC ****pments
total=
ed 71.1
> > > > > > million units in the first quarter of 2008
>
> > > > > > =A0 =A0 =A02,289,000/71,100,000 =3D 0.0321
>
> > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q1'08 =3D 3.21%
>
> > > > > > Summary:
>
> > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q1'07 =3D 2.41%
>
> > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q2'07 =3D 2.88%
>
> > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q3'07 =3D 3.15%
>
> > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q4'07 =3D 3.05%
>
> > > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q1'08 =3D 3.21%
>
> > > > > > Q1'07 comparted to Q1'08
>
> > > > > > Mac gain in worldwide market share =3D 0.8%
>
> > > > > > You're welcome, Alan!
>
> > > > > Of course you realize that, using your figures, Apple's market
sha=
re
> > > > > has
> > > > > increased by 33%.
>
> > > > Not buy using my figures. =A0 Apple is stuck at about 3% of the
mark=
et,
> > > > they're nowhere near 33% of the market.
>
> > > Now, try reading for content. Nowhere did I say that they were
anywher=
e
> > > near 33% of the market. What I did say is that their market share
> > > increased by 33%, from 2.4 to 3.2%.
>
> > IOW, it's stuck at about 3% of the market, just like it has been for
> > at least the last ten years.
>
> But, as you have shown, and I have demonstrated, it is increasing. Do
> you deny that?
Do I deny going from 3% to 3% is an increase? You bet your ass I do!
>
> > > > > Is that really what you wanted to say?
>
> > > > Not in any shape or form. =A0 I prefer Apple's position in the
marke=
t as
> > > > opposed to your figure of Apple against itself.
>
> > > Would you mind writing that in English next time?
>
> > Take a remedial reading course.
>
> I believe =A0you should take an English Composition course, as your
> sentence is nonsensical.
See what I mean?
>
> > > > > BTW, why is it that your posts have a strange resemblance to
those=
of
> > > > > Glorb, Mr. X, and Hasta la Vista?
>
> > > > The truth is the truth no matter who posts it. =A0 You probably
> > > > recognize all our posts as being the opposite of the bullsh*t you
po=
st.
>
> > > I have posted no BS, Glorb/Mr.X/err Hasta la Vista/err Edwin.
>
> > You post nothing but B.S., idiot/moron/err sh*thead/err Dave.
>
> Having lost the argument, Edwin turns to insults. Same old Edwin...
Same old Crazy Dave Fritzinger, acts like a moron, gets called a
moron, and then declares victory.
>
> > > I used
> > > your figures and showed you that the Mac marketshare has increased
by
> > > 33%. Note, I didn't say it increased *to* 33%, but that the Mac
market=
> > > share increased *by* 33%. Do you understand the difference? From the
> > > blathering you have been doing, it is apparent that you do not.
>
> > The truth has become blathering to Dave"Moron"Fritzinger.
>
> It is noted that Edwin is unable to refute what I wrote, so he is
> turning to insults, as usual Same old Edwin...
Crazy Dave Fritzinger has gone to declaring victory and whining after
acting like a moron and being told he's one after he did.
> > Apple's market share is stuck at 3%, no matter how you contrive a "33%
> > gain."
>
> I showed the math, Edwin. I used your figures, and showed that the Mac
> market share increased by 33%. If you can't understand the math, perhaps
> you should take a remedial math course as well.
Crazy Dave Fritzinger needs to show how going from 3% to 3% represents
a 33% increase.
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