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Edwin <thorne25@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 17, 7:57 pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > In article
> > <f9cba5ce-0a1e-4981-a741-b6e32cd72...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >
> > Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > On May 17, 3:03 pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > >
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> >
> > > > Edwin <thorn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > On May 17, 2:21 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > In article <b0d8$482e0397$18...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >
> > > > > > Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > > Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article <ed0e2$482dbc1e$10...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > > > > > > Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >> Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> In article <5aa3d$482dba52$9...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > > > > > >>> Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>> In article <c3799$482db496$7...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > > > > > >>>>> Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> In article <5e9bd$482daf22$6...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Glorb <Gl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> In article
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <mVhXj.9251$hv2.4...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> "weedhopper" <whop...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Impressive!!
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8614
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> "Apple's global market share is only 3.3 percent
among
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 69.5
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> million
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> PC
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> ****pped in the March quarter, according to IDC. "
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> "But that market share tally is up from 2.5
percent in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> March
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> quarter
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> a year ago. Why do those Apple gains matter? Those
Mac
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> sales
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> likely
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> came at the expense of a new Windows machine."
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> BTW, what is the whole subject of that post?
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> "Microsoft1s elephant in the OS room: Apple"
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> The whole thing is about how the Mac is making an
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> impact
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> into
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Microsoft's market.
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 'TR1s audience is comprised of the folks that
actually
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> implement
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> stuff.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> It1s not the fanboy crowd. One sample response
from an
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> IT
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> exec:
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> "I started out as a Windows/Novell man, but now I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> advocate
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Mac
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> purchases and make them as much as I can. Two main
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> reasons
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I do
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 1)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> on the whole, they require less time to sup****t,
much
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> less
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> time,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> actually, because the OS runs better and there are
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> fewer
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> malware
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> concerns; 2) I practice the philosophy of keeping
it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> simple.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Mac
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> software is easy to use and, more im****tantly,
easy to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> teach to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> my
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> IT
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> employees."'
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> The above shows Apple ****pped 7,764,000 Macs
in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> calendar
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> year
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2007.
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million units
in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2007
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86
%
> >
> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Q2'08 Apple ****pped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> The above shows Apple ****pped 2,289, Macs
in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> first
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> calender
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> quarter of 2008.
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1 million units
in the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> first
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> quarter
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> of 2008
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 =
3.21%
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Mac gain in worldwide market share from
2007 to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2008 =
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Apple growth Q1'08: 51%
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Overall growth Q1'08: 12%.
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Somebody get Alan a math tutor!
> > > > > > > >>>>> Mac Q1'08 / Mac Q1' 07 = 1.5088
> >
> > > > > > > >>>>> Those figures were provided by you, above.
> > > > > > > >>>> Where did the other three quarters of 2007 go?
> > > > > > > >>> Where did they need to go to compare the year of year
growth
> > > > > > > >>> of
> > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > >>> Mac
> > > > > > > >>> in one quarter to the year of year growth of the overall
PC
> > > > > > > >>> market in
> > > > > > > >>> the same quarter?
> > > > > > > >> Then compare to the last quarter of 2007, not the first,
> > > > > > > >> asshat.
> > > > > > > >> Growth is from quarter to quarter. It doesn't leapfrog
over
> > > > > > > >> three
> > > > > > > >> quarters of the year.
> >
> > > > > > > > Your Gartner reference to the overall figures is for first
> > > > > > > > quarter
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > first quarter, so -- as usual, you're wrong.
> >
> > > > > > >http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> > > > > > > Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
> >
> > > > > > > No, you're the one who's wrong as usual, Edwin.
> >
> > > > > > That's only one of the links you provided, Edwin.
> >
> > > > > > Read what this one says:
> >
> > > > > > <http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619>
> >
> > > > > > "Gartner Says Worldwide PC Market Grew 12 Percent in First
Quarter
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > 2008
> >
> > > > > > U.S. Recession Had Minimal Disturbance on Global PC ****pments
in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > Quarter
> >
> > > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., April 16, 2008 <ETH> Worldwide PC ****pments
> > > > > > totaled
> > > > > > 71.1
> > > > > > million units in the first quarter of 2008, a 12.3 percent
increase
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > the first quarter of 2007, according to preliminary results by
> > > > > > Gartner,
> > > > > > Inc."
> >
> > > > > > See that? Look carefully now (what am I saying? you always
"read
> > > > > > very
> > > > > > carefully", don't you? LOL):
> >
> > > > > > " Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1 million units in the
first
> > > > > > quarter
> > > > > > of 2008, a 12.3 percent increase from the first quarter of
2007"
> >
> > > > > > First quarter 2008 compared to first quarter 2007.
> >
> > > > > > See: they do this because sales of products fluctuate
seasonally,
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > that comparing a quarter to the immediately preceding quarter
isn't
> > > > > > very
> > > > > > useful.
> >
> > > > > You found another "Edwin," did you? ROTFLMAO!!!
> >
> > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> > > > > fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> > > > > Apple ****pped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=503816
> > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., April 18, 2007 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments totaled
62.7
> > > > > million unitsin the first quarter of 2007
> >
> > > > > 1,517,000/62,700,000 = 0.0241
> >
> > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q1'07 = 2.41%
> >
> > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> > > > > 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> > > > > Apple ****pped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=509905
> > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., July 18, 2007 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments totaled
61.1
> > > > > million units in the second quarter of 2007
> >
> > > > > 1,764,000/61,100,000 = 0.0288
> >
> > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q2'07 = 2.88%
> >
> > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> > > > > fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> > > > > Apple ****pped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=532712
> > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., October 17, 2007 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments
totaled
> > > > > 68.5 million units in the third quarter of 2007
> >
> > > > > 2,164,000/68,500,000 = 0.0315
> >
> > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q3'07 = 3.15%
> >
> > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> > > > > fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> > > > > Apple ****pped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., January 16, 2008 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments
totaled
> > > > > 271.2 million units in 2007, a 13.4 percent increase from 2006,
> > > > > according to preliminary results by Gartner, Inc. The industry
ended
> > > > > the year with fourth quarter PC ****pments of 75.9 million units
> >
> > > > > 2,319,000/75,900,000 = 0.0305
> >
> > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q4'07 = 3.05%
> >
> > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> > > > > fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> > > > > Q2'08 Apple ****pped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
> >
> > > > >http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> > > > > STAMFORD, Conn., April 16, 2008 Ğ Worldwide PC ****pments totaled
71.1
> > > > > million units in the first quarter of 2008
> >
> > > > > 2,289,000/71,100,000 = 0.0321
> >
> > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >
> > > > > Summary:
> >
> > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q1'07 = 2.41%
> >
> > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q2'07 = 2.88%
> >
> > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q3'07 = 3.15%
> >
> > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q4'07 = 3.05%
> >
> > > > > Mac woldwide market share Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >
> > > > > Q1'07 comparted to Q1'08
> >
> > > > > Mac gain in worldwide market share = 0.8%
> >
> > > > > You're welcome, Alan!
> >
> > > > Of course you realize that, using your figures, Apple's market
share
> > > > has
> > > > increased by 33%.
> >
> > > Not buy using my figures. Apple is stuck at about 3% of the
market,
> > > they're nowhere near 33% of the market.
> >
> > Now, try reading for content. Nowhere did I say that they were
anywhere
> > near 33% of the market. What I did say is that their market share
> > increased by 33%, from 2.4 to 3.2%.
>
> IOW, it's stuck at about 3% of the market, just like it has been for
> at least the last ten years.
But, as you have shown, and I have demonstrated, it is increasing. Do
you deny that?
>
> >
> > > > Is that really what you wanted to say?
> >
> > > Not in any shape or form. I prefer Apple's position in the market
as
> > > opposed to your figure of Apple against itself.
> >
> > Would you mind writing that in English next time?
>
> Take a remedial reading course.
I believe you should take an English Composition course, as your
sentence is nonsensical.
>
> > > > BTW, why is it that your posts have a strange resemblance to those
of
> > > > Glorb, Mr. X, and Hasta la Vista?
> >
> > > The truth is the truth no matter who posts it. You probably
> > > recognize all our posts as being the opposite of the bullsh*t you
post.
> >
> > I have posted no BS, Glorb/Mr.X/err Hasta la Vista/err Edwin.
>
> You post nothing but B.S., idiot/moron/err sh*thead/err Dave.
Having lost the argument, Edwin turns to insults. Same old Edwin...
>
> > I used
> > your figures and showed you that the Mac marketshare has increased by
> > 33%. Note, I didn't say it increased *to* 33%, but that the Mac market
> > share increased *by* 33%. Do you understand the difference? From the
> > blathering you have been doing, it is apparent that you do not.
>
> The truth has become blathering to Dave"Moron"Fritzinger.
It is noted that Edwin is unable to refute what I wrote, so he is
turning to insults, as usual Same old Edwin...
>
> Apple's market share is stuck at 3%, no matter how you contrive a "33%
> gain."
I showed the math, Edwin. I used your figures, and showed that the Mac
market share increased by 33%. If you can't understand the math, perhaps
you should take a remedial math course as well.
--
Dave Fritzinger
Honolulu, HI
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