In article <b0d8$482e0397$18663@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <ed0e2$482dbc1e$10679@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> >> Alan Baker wrote:
> >>> In article <5aa3d$482dba52$9763@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >>> Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> >>>>> In article <c3799$482db496$7869@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >>>>> Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <5e9bd$482daf22$6035@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >>>>>>> Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> In article <mVhXj.9251$hv2.4276@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >>>>>>>>> "weedhopper" <whopper@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Impressive!!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8614
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "Apple's global market share is only 3.3 percent among the
69.5
> >>>>>>>>>> million
> >>>>>>>>>> PC
> >>>>>>>>>> ****pped in the March quarter, according to IDC. "
> >>>>>>>>> "But that market share tally is up from 2.5 percent in the
March
> >>>>>>>>> quarter
> >>>>>>>>> a year ago. Why do those Apple gains matter? Those Mac sales
most
> >>>>>>>>> likely
> >>>>>>>>> came at the expense of a new Windows machine."
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> BTW, what is the whole subject of that post?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Microsoft¹s elephant in the OS room: Apple"
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The whole thing is about how the Mac is making an impact into
> >>>>>>>>> Microsoft's market.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 'TR¹s audience is comprised of the folks that actually
implement
> >>>>>>>>> stuff.
> >>>>>>>>> It¹s not the fanboy crowd. One sample response from an IT
exec:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "I started out as a Windows/Novell man, but now I advocate for
Mac
> >>>>>>>>> purchases and make them as much as I can. Two main reasons I
do
> >>>>>>>>> this:
> >>>>>>>>> 1)
> >>>>>>>>> on the whole, they require less time to sup****t, much less
time,
> >>>>>>>>> actually, because the OS runs better and there are fewer
malware
> >>>>>>>>> concerns; 2) I practice the philosophy of keeping it simple.
Mac
> >>>>>>>>> software is easy to use and, more im****tantly, easy to teach
to my
> >>>>>>>>> IT
> >>>>>>>>> employees."'
> >>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> >>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> >>>>>>>> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> >>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> >>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> >>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The above shows Apple ****pped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar
year
> >>>>>>>> 2007.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> >>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> >>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> >>>>>>>> Q2'08 Apple ****pped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The above shows Apple ****pped 2,289, Macs in the first
> >>>>>>>> calender
> >>>>>>>> quarter of 2008.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> >>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1 million units in the first
> >>>>>>>> quarter
> >>>>>>>> of 2008
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
> >>>>>>> Apple growth Q1'08: 51%
> >>>>>>> Overall growth Q1'08: 12%.
> >>>>>> Somebody get Alan a math tutor!
> >>>>> Mac Q1'08 / Mac Q1' 07 = 1.5088
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Those figures were provided by you, above.
> >>>> Where did the other three quarters of 2007 go?
> >>> Where did they need to go to compare the year of year growth of the
Mac
> >>> in one quarter to the year of year growth of the overall PC market
in
> >>> the same quarter?
> >> Then compare to the last quarter of 2007, not the first, asshat.
> >> Growth is from quarter to quarter. It doesn't leapfrog over three
> >> quarters of the year.
> >
> > Your Gartner reference to the overall figures is for first quarter to
> > first quarter, so -- as usual, you're wrong.
>
> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>
> No, you're the one who's wrong as usual, Edwin.
That's only one of the links you provided, Edwin.
Read what this one says:
<http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619>
"Gartner Says Worldwide PC Market Grew 12 Percent in First Quarter of
2008
U.S. Recession Had Minimal Disturbance on Global PC ****pments in the
Quarter
STAMFORD, Conn., April 16, 2008 ‹ Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1
million units in the first quarter of 2008, a 12.3 percent increase from
the first quarter of 2007, according to preliminary results by Gartner,
Inc."
See that? Look carefully now (what am I saying? you always "read very
carefully", don't you? LOL):
" Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
of 2008, a 12.3 percent increase from the first quarter of 2007"
First quarter 2008 compared to first quarter 2007.
See: they do this because sales of products fluctuate seasonally, so
that comparing a quarter to the immediately preceding quarter isn't very
useful.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix
with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on
Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)
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