On Fri, 16 May 2008 14:44:48 -0700, Moshe Goldfarb wrote
(in article <b4bw32bipw1f.12rzttkfrin7w.dlg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 14:19:33 -0700, George Graves wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 11:54:03 -0700, Moshe Goldfarb wrote
>> (in article <1r54qjzhdzo5w$.4kjm9awmygh2.dlg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 18:47:28 GMT, Canuck57 wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>> news:1aim6cnnfxba7$.xbad57tltpnb$.dlg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 11:46:15 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2008-05-16, Ezekiel <a@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretc
>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>> s-four-city-blocks/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street
>>>>>>> Apple
>>>>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours
early?
>>>>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food
court
>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told
them
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo,
you
>>>>>>> might be
>>>>>>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the
Apple
>>>>>>> Store
>>>>>>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...while you are too busy taking a swipe a Linux over this you are
>>>>>> interestingly enough ignoring the fact that this sort of thing
doesn't
>>>>>> happen over Microsoft products anymore. The sort of excitement that
>>>>>> a new Microsoft product launch used to generate is now being
generated
>>>>>> by Apple instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty much true as Vista is turning out to be less than exciting.
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...not such a bad thing overall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [deletia]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux loses nothing if Apple does well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure it does.
>>>>> Why aren't all those people jumping ****p to Apple going to Linux
instead?
>>>>> Linux is free.
>>>>> Apple is not.
>>>>>
>>>>> THAT is the question which needs to be answered.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you have a free product, Linux, and a potential pool of unhappy
>>>>> customers (Vista users), why are these customers ready, willing and
able
>>>>> to
>>>>> pay big money for Apple vs migrating to Linux for free?
>>>>>
>>>>> IOW what is it about Linux that keeps average Joe from using it?
>>>>
>>>> If Linux isn't anything to worry about, how come Microsoft spends so
much
>>>> in
>>>> anti-Linux FUD? The internet abounds with stories like:
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/05/15/ms_slush_fund_provides_big/
>>>
>>> Microsoft is afraid of Linux on servers, ****table devices, embedded
etc.
>>> And they should be.
>>> They have nothing to fear about desktop Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>>> And you can't count in sales the downloads of Linux. I give out FREE
>>>> DVDs
>>>> to anyone that asks. Those will not even be on the download
counters.
>>>
>>> How many are still using it after a few days, or more realistically,
hours?
>>> People try Linux and they dump it just as fast.
>>> Few stick with Linux.
>>>
>>>> And HP goes the distance producing printer drivers for an OS no one
uses.
>>>> Right.
>>>
>>> Why not?
>>> HP is a huge company that makes very large machines too so they
already
>>> have the infrastructure in place to do so.
>>> More icing on the cake.
>>>
>>> The BBC decided the Linux market at 0.8 percent wasn't enough to build
in
>>> sup****t for their multimedia player.
>>>
>>>> You are right, Linux looses nothing if Apple wins. In fact, Apple is
BSD
>>>> UNIX inside and fully 100% interoperable with Linux. Unlike Vista
>>>> crippleware.
>>>
>>> I didn't say that.
>>> I said something like:
>>>
>>> Linux loses if Apple wins because those Apple converts could be Linux
>>> converts.
>>> But they are not.
>>> And it's doubtful if they ever will be.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It's the idea of Linux that MS fears. A computing paradigm that
contains no
>> profit for MS. Why, if this idea took root, it could put companies like
>> Microsoft out of business! NO MORE 800 POUND GORILLA dictating computer
>> policy to the rest of the industry. Oh NO!
>
> Yes it certainly *could*.
> But it hasn't and there is no indication that it ever will.
>
> If Linux can't capitalize on Vista then there is no hope for Linux.
I believe that Linux would have a larger "market share" IF computer
manufacturers stopped pre-installing Windows on their machines. If faced
with
a choice of buying Windows retail, and getting Linux for free (or
practically
free - that $10 CD price, you know) a lot more people would go for it. If
that occurred, Linux user-****p would soon reach the critical mass to
interest
major developers in ****ting their apps to the platform. That's not going
to
happen, however and I think that Linux will always remain regulated to the
"enthusiast" segment.


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