On Fri, 16 May 2008 22:36:21 GMT, Canuck57 wrote:
> Yep, it is about the commotization of the OS.
I'm talking average desktop users most of whom don't know one OS from
another.
IOW to them a Mac is a "machine".
It's just a *different* machine.
Linux to these people is either an unknown or some geeky thing with no
GUI.
>> But it hasn't and there is no indication that it ever will.
>
> It will take time. Took Microsoft 10 years to remove mainframe
terminals
> and Novell. But also remember, what goes around, comes around. Just
takes
> time.
Linux has lived through the Mac releasing bomb machines that didn't sell.
Apple getting into serious troubles because Windows was/is trouncing it.
Lost market share of schools by Apple.
Microsoft releasing BOB and Windows ME and now Vista.
All three of which were/are bombs IMHO.
Linux has had and still has op****tunity but people just don't seem to be
biting.
The dissatisfied Windows users are now considering the Mac and ignoring
Linux.
> For example, say Apple increases market share just 20% a year. Say they
> have 5% now. Say Linux is similar. In less than 13 years Microsofts
share
> will dimish to zero. While Linux and Apple are not that big, they are
> growing and eating slowly now, and will feed in bigger chunks of
Microsoft
> as time goes by.
But Mac is increasing it's market share mostly due to a new audience that
is discovering the Apple way via their other devices like iPhone/iPod etc.
Linux is stagnant on the desktop at well less than 1 percent and has been
for years.
> Apple knows this story, Apple II and Apple IIe were previously at the
top of
> the heap before Microsoft.
Correct. See above.
The difference is Apple recovered, although I'm not really sure they
planned on getting new users to their Macs via the iPhone etc.
That's what is happening however, coupled with a **** product from
Microsoft called Vista.
> Say Win7 flops. A Microsoft worst case scenario. It will accelerate.
Or
> if Microsoft gets greedy, ups the prices whuch often happens in a
failing
> business model.
They can't go any higher because the market is barely going along with the
current pricing.
>> If Linux can't capitalize on Vista then there is no hope for Linux.
>
> It is. Lets say you like Vista, you go out and buy it. Why not load
Linux
> on the 3 year old PC and check it out?
Because these same people already have Windows XP on those machines and a
ton of data and programs to go along with it.
> If you hate Vista, drop in Linux, a
> no charge trial and no charge if you want to keep it. Sure beats going
out
> and buying Ultimate at $500+ for a full retail version to find out it
solves
> nothing.
Sounds good in theory but it's just not happening that way.
People are blowing $2000.00 on a Mac in stead.
Why?
I'm not really sure, but I suspect it's the multimedia interfacing with
iPhones etc and the fact that they are pissed at Microsoft.
One thing is certain, they are not flocking to free Linux.
> BTW, another achilles heal. Microsoft Windows products, especially the
> likes of Vista do not integrate well in a mixed server environment
outside
> of HTTP.
Doesn't matter for a home user.
At work, chances are the person is using Windows there as well and if
servers are involved in a mixed environment, it is all transparent to
Susie
the secretary because some geek set it up like that.
> Linux integrates nicely. A business driver. Also useful if your older
> systems are all UNIX based. NFS mounts so much easier to other xNIXs it
is
> nice. Vista isn't compatible or as stable with much.
Until you have to interact with the outside world and all the Windows
applications a small business is likely to encounter.
Just MSOffice is a start.
--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
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