Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <ed0e2$482dbc1e$10679@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> Alan Baker wrote:
>>> In article <5aa3d$482dba52$9763@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>> Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> In article <c3799$482db496$7869@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>>> Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <5e9bd$482daf22$6035@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>>>>> Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <mVhXj.9251$hv2.4276@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>>>>>>> "weedhopper" <whopper@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Impressive!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8614
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Apple's global market share is only 3.3 percent among the 69.5
>>>>>>>>>> million
>>>>>>>>>> PC
>>>>>>>>>> ****pped in the March quarter, according to IDC. "
>>>>>>>>> "But that market share tally is up from 2.5 percent in the March
>>>>>>>>> quarter
>>>>>>>>> a year ago. Why do those Apple gains matter? Those Mac sales
most
>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>> came at the expense of a new Windows machine."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW, what is the whole subject of that post?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Microsoft¹s elephant in the OS room: Apple"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The whole thing is about how the Mac is making an impact into
>>>>>>>>> Microsoft's market.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 'TR¹s audience is comprised of the folks that actually implement
>>>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>>>> It¹s not the fanboy crowd. One sample response from an IT exec:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "I started out as a Windows/Novell man, but now I advocate for
Mac
>>>>>>>>> purchases and make them as much as I can. Two main reasons I do
this:
>>>>>>>>> 1)
>>>>>>>>> on the whole, they require less time to sup****t, much less time,
>>>>>>>>> actually, because the OS runs better and there are fewer malware
>>>>>>>>> concerns; 2) I practice the philosophy of keeping it simple. Mac
>>>>>>>>> software is easy to use and, more im****tantly, easy to teach to
my IT
>>>>>>>>> employees."'
>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
>>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
>>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
>>>>>>>> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
>>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
>>>>>>>> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
>>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
>>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
>>>>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The above shows Apple ****pped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar
year
>>>>>>>> 2007.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
>>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
>>>>>>>> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
>>>>>>>> Q2'08 Apple ****pped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The above shows Apple ****pped 2,289, Macs in the first
>>>>>>>> calender
>>>>>>>> quarter of 2008.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
>>>>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1 million units in the first
quarter
>>>>>>>> of 2008
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
>>>>>>> Apple growth Q1'08: 51%
>>>>>>> Overall growth Q1'08: 12%.
>>>>>> Somebody get Alan a math tutor!
>>>>> Mac Q1'08 / Mac Q1' 07 = 1.5088
>>>>>
>>>>> Those figures were provided by you, above.
>>>> Where did the other three quarters of 2007 go?
>>> Where did they need to go to compare the year of year growth of the
Mac
>>> in one quarter to the year of year growth of the overall PC market in
>>> the same quarter?
>> Then compare to the last quarter of 2007, not the first, asshat.
>> Growth is from quarter to quarter. It doesn't leapfrog over three
>> quarters of the year.
>
> Your Gartner reference to the overall figures is for first quarter to
> first quarter,
No it's not, asshat. My first overall figure is for all of 2007. My
second overall figure is for all of the first quarter of 2008. You
even said so when you complained I was comparing all of 2007 to one
quarter of 2008.
> so -- as usual, you're wrong.
No I'm not, asshat. Not as usual or any other way.
>>>>> Your last reference states (and I quote):
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gartner Says Worldwide PC Market Grew 12 Percent in First Quarter
of
>>>>> 2008"
>>>>>
>>>>> 71,057,000 / 63,250,000 = 1.1234
>>>>>
>>>>> But remember: those figures include Mac sales.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if we subtract the Mac sales:
>>>>>
>>>>> (71,057,000 - 2,289,000) / (63,250,000 - 1,517,000) = 1.1139
>>>>>
>>>>> IOW, while the Mac's sales grew 51% year over year, the rest of the
PC
>>>>> market only grew 11%.
>>>> Bull****!
>>> By all means, continue your oh so cogent rebuttal.
>> I gave you all the figures, asshat.
>
> LOL
>
>>> How is it bull****?
>> You know how, asshat.
>
> LOL
asshat.
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