In article <ed0e2$482dbc1e$10679@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <5aa3d$482dba52$9763@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> >> Alan Baker wrote:
> >>> In article <c3799$482db496$7869@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >>> Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> >>>>> In article <5e9bd$482daf22$6035@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >>>>> Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <mVhXj.9251$hv2.4276@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >>>>>>> "weedhopper" <whopper@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Impressive!!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8614
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Apple's global market share is only 3.3 percent among the 69.5
> >>>>>>>> million
> >>>>>>>> PC
> >>>>>>>> ****pped in the March quarter, according to IDC. "
> >>>>>>> "But that market share tally is up from 2.5 percent in the March
> >>>>>>> quarter
> >>>>>>> a year ago. Why do those Apple gains matter? Those Mac sales
most
> >>>>>>> likely
> >>>>>>> came at the expense of a new Windows machine."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> BTW, what is the whole subject of that post?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Microsoft¹s elephant in the OS room: Apple"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The whole thing is about how the Mac is making an impact into
> >>>>>>> Microsoft's market.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 'TR¹s audience is comprised of the folks that actually implement
> >>>>>>> stuff.
> >>>>>>> It¹s not the fanboy crowd. One sample response from an IT exec:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "I started out as a Windows/Novell man, but now I advocate for
Mac
> >>>>>>> purchases and make them as much as I can. Two main reasons I do
this:
> >>>>>>> 1)
> >>>>>>> on the whole, they require less time to sup****t, much less time,
> >>>>>>> actually, because the OS runs better and there are fewer malware
> >>>>>>> concerns; 2) I practice the philosophy of keeping it simple. Mac
> >>>>>>> software is easy to use and, more im****tantly, easy to teach to
my IT
> >>>>>>> employees."'
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> >>>>>> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> >>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> >>>>>> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> >>>>>> Apple ****pped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> >>>>>> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> >>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> >>>>>> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> >>>>>> Apple ****pped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The above shows Apple ****pped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar
year
> >>>>>> 2007.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> >>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> >>>>>> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> >>>>>> Q2'08 Apple ****pped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The above shows Apple ****pped 2,289, Macs in the first
> >>>>>> calender
> >>>>>> quarter of 2008.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> >>>>>> Worldwide PC ****pments totaled 71.1 million units in the first
quarter
> >>>>>> of 2008
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
> >>>>> Apple growth Q1'08: 51%
> >>>>> Overall growth Q1'08: 12%.
> >>>> Somebody get Alan a math tutor!
> >>> Mac Q1'08 / Mac Q1' 07 = 1.5088
> >>>
> >>> Those figures were provided by you, above.
> >> Where did the other three quarters of 2007 go?
> >
> > Where did they need to go to compare the year of year growth of the
Mac
> > in one quarter to the year of year growth of the overall PC market in
> > the same quarter?
>
> Then compare to the last quarter of 2007, not the first, asshat.
> Growth is from quarter to quarter. It doesn't leapfrog over three
> quarters of the year.
Your Gartner reference to the overall figures is for first quarter to
first quarter, so -- as usual, you're wrong.
>
> >>> Your last reference states (and I quote):
> >>>
> >>> "Gartner Says Worldwide PC Market Grew 12 Percent in First Quarter
of
> >>> 2008"
> >>>
> >>> 71,057,000 / 63,250,000 = 1.1234
> >>>
> >>> But remember: those figures include Mac sales.
> >>>
> >>> So if we subtract the Mac sales:
> >>>
> >>> (71,057,000 - 2,289,000) / (63,250,000 - 1,517,000) = 1.1139
> >>>
> >>> IOW, while the Mac's sales grew 51% year over year, the rest of the
PC
> >>> market only grew 11%.
> >> Bull****!
> >
> > By all means, continue your oh so cogent rebuttal.
>
> I gave you all the figures, asshat.
LOL
>
> > How is it bull****?
>
> You know how, asshat.
LOL
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