On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:27:19 -0700, Glorb wrote
(in article <c3e60$482b04d7$6599@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
> Mayor of R'lyeh wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 May 2008 22:30:08 GMT, me4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Wayne Stuart)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <r81i2493mg7ii0vqdtv8m1o2k08vko0vnp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>> Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2008 14:57:49 -0700, George Graves
>>>>> <gmgraves2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2008 13:18:23 -0700, ZnU wrote
>>>>>> (in article <znu-5B168E.16182312052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
>>>>>>> Will they do it? I don't see them having much interest, at the
moment.
>>>>>>> But who anticipated the Mac mini, introduced as a $500 Mac when
the
>>>>>>> cheapest Mac was previously nearly twice that price, or the
Xserve, a
>>>>>>> product targeted at a market in which Apple had previously shown
no
>>>>>>> interest at all?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The thing is that any computer designed to compete in that space
would
>>>>>> have to be more computer than the Mini. Let's face it, for the cost
of
>>>>>> a Mini one can buy or build a Windows box with near Mac tower
>>>>>> performance and capability. Not that the Mini isn't useful, it
>>>>>> certainly is, it just doesn't stack-up, hardware wise, very well
>>>>>> against similar priced Winbox offerings. It's main appeal is that
it
>>>>>> runs OSX. This makes it worthwhile to those who value OSX, but to
our
>>>>>> local Windroids and Wins*** here, many of which have never even
seen,
>>>>>> much less used OSX (Edwin), the Mini merely looks overpriced.
>>>>> Mac user (at work anyway) here to say that the Mini is grossly
>>>>> overpriced for what it is. If the higher end Mini were priced at
$500
>>>>> and the lower end one at $300 they'd be flying out the doors.
>>>> It's priced quite well for a small form-factor system, but many
buyers
>>>> probably don't care much about the form factor. Apple could make the
>>>> thing a fair bit cheaper by just making it a bit larger, so it
wouldn't
>>>> have to use laptop RAM and optical & hard drives.
>>>>
>>>> (Though it's also worth noting the Mac mini hasn't seen an update in
>>>> something like nine months -- it'll probably be much more competitive
>>>> after the next update. Though that will probably take the form of
better
>>>> specs at the same price points. Unless it has been so long since the
>>>> last update because Apple is up to something....)
>>> Maybe if the Mini had been a bigger seller, Apple would have put more
>>> effort into keeping it fresh. But everything I've seen points to the
>>> Mini has always been considerably outsold by the much more expensive
>>> iMac.
>>>
>>> You also have to wonder if this has been sending a message that people
>>> aren't particularly interested in cheap Macs, so no point making an
even
>>> cheaper one.
>>
>> What people are interested in is a $500 Mac that has the same features
>> as a $500 PC, not a $500 Mac that matches the $198 PCs on Wal-Mart's
>> website.
>> As I keep pointing out its not the price point, its the value.
>
> I agree.
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com
**
Depends upon one's definition of value. I hate to resort to car analogies,
but in spite of the fact that some people here dislike them intensely,
they
work because they are easy to understand. I can buy a car for a lot less
than
a Lamborghini that's faster than a Lamborghini. I can also buy a car for a
lot less than a Lamborghini that has more seats, more luggage capacity,
more
cup holders, more features like On Star, and satellite radio, gets better
gas
milage, weighs more, has a more stylish interior, and cost less to
maintain.
Does that make the Lambo a poor value? Not at all. It makes it appeal to a
different clientele than does a Cadillac Esplanade or a Corvette. The Mini
appeals to people who have no use for a Windows PC of the same price or
less,
no matter how much better a processor, more memory, bigger hard drive or
more
software it comes bundled with. That makes such comparisons moot. I might,
conceivably buy a Mini, I would never buy one of these similar priced or
even
cheaper Windows machines even if it were faster and more fully loaded than
the fastest Mac one can buy, because I have no use for a Windows machine.
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