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Re: more on saving during power out

by Steve de Mena <steve@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 13, 2008 at 04:02 PM

George Graves wrote:

> The difference between a UPS and direct battery backup may seem subtle
to 
> some and even nit-picking, but it is actually two totally different 
> approaches to the same problem. 
> 
> An uninterruptable power supply (UPS) uses a battery, yes, but it
doesn't use 
> one directly, it uses the battery and a DC to AC converter to change the
DC 
> battery voltage (usually 12 volts, but it can be something else) to 120
V (in 
> the USA & Canada), 60 Hertz mains power. The computer user merely plugs
his 
> computer's mains cord (AC cable) into the receptacle on the UPS unit and
the 
> UPS unit plugs into the wall. Normally, the AC coming out of the wall
p***** 
> through the UPS box and on to the computer. Some of the AC is used by
the UPS 
> to maintain the battery's charge and most use lead-acid or gel-cell 
> technology because the usage is a lot like that in a car or motorcycle 
> battery and is an ideal application for this type of cell. 

I usually go for the UPSs that never pass through the AC power but 
always run the devices on conditioned power.   Such as APCs 
"Smart-UPS" line, versus their "Back-UPS" line.

> When the power
> fails, the UPS instantly kicks over to battery whereby the DC/AC
converter 
> maintains the power line voltage so that the computer does not shut down
at 
> all. Depending upon battery size (capacity) the UPS can maintain
computer 
> operation for any amount of time from a few minutes to hours. Most UPS
units 
> for home computers have relatively small batteries in them and these
usually 
> come with some software to tell the computer (either via Ethernet or
USB) 

Normally RS-232 serial, with USB just starting to become more normal, 
though the APC unit I just bought a month or so ago for $500 only has 
RS-232 serial.

> that main power has failed. This software will then initiate the proper 
> shutdown sequence for the computer: Save all work, close all open 
> applications, and properly shut down the computer.

How "graceful" that saving of work and closing of apps has  a lot to 
do with the OS and the applications involved.

Steve
 




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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-11 12:04:11 
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Jim <jim@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-11 15:55:03 
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George Graves <gmgrave  2008-05-11 14:15:28 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-11 20:10:16 
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Jim <jim@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-11 23:30:59 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-11 20:09:12 
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Tim Murray <no-spam@[E  2008-05-11 20:26:46 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-11 21:20:05 
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Tim Murray <no-spam@[E  2008-05-11 21:37:35 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-11 22:05:58 
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Mitch <mitch@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-11 20:45:02 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-12 08:08:02 
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Jim <jim@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-12 09:29:55 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-12 10:57:08 
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Tim Murray <no-spam@[E  2008-05-13 00:11:26 
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Steve de Mena <steve@[  2008-05-12 21:58:57 
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Jim <jim@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-11 23:30:07 
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Chance Furlong <t-bone  2008-05-11 21:45:30 
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Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor  2008-05-11 22:03:09 
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Alan Baker <alangbaker  2008-05-12 03:23:39 
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Chance Furlong <t-bone  2008-05-11 22:44:13 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-12 08:10:23 
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Steve de Mena <steve@[  2008-05-11 22:02:28 
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-hh <recscuba_google@[  2008-05-12 03:33:12 
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ZnU <znu@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-12 13:51:17 
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JCrowe <bongofury@[EMA  2008-05-12 22:27:47 
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Steve de Mena <steve@[  2008-05-12 21:58:08 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-12 14:49:35 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-12 08:09:36 
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Tim Murray <no-spam@[E  2008-05-13 00:12:55 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-13 10:48:49 
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Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2008-05-13 12:39:23 
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Mitch <mitch@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 06:52:21 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-13 15:20:03 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 09:57:46 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-13 15:22:04 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 12:30:19 
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Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor  2008-05-13 22:50:34 
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-hh <recscuba_google@[  2008-05-12 14:46:07 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-12 20:13:28 
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-hh <recscuba_google@[  2008-05-13 05:07:58 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-13 10:49:35 
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Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 14:49:58 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-13 12:52:14 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 13:00:08 
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Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 15:23:11 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 13:41:15 
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Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 16:13:15 
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George Graves <gmgrave  2008-05-13 15:14:06 
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Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 17:49:50 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 19:58:18 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 19:11:38 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 20:15:57 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 19:28:44 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 22:06:47 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 21:14:38 
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Steve de Mena <steve@[  2008-05-13 16:02:14 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 16:22:12 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 16:13:09 
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"Glorb" <glo  2008-05-13 20:35:53 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 18:38:11 
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"Glorb" <glo  2008-05-13 21:58:44 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 20:07:35 
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"Glorb" <glo  2008-05-13 22:32:51 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 20:42:15 
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"Glorb" <glo  2008-05-13 22:58:05 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 21:04:20 
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"Glorb" <glo  2008-05-13 23:13:38 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 21:17:54 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 22:52:28 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 21:58:16 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 23:29:00 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 22:33:31 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 23:41:57 
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Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-14 09:57:57 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-14 11:58:11 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-15 17:52:03 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-15 17:54:11 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 18:15:46 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-15 18:19:19 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 18:42:23 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-15 20:28:07 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-15 20:39:01 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 22:18:37 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-16 11:54:38 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 13:23:54 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-16 15:06:32 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-16 16:02:05 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 17:00:30 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-16 18:14:29 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 19:26:37 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-16 22:14:15 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-17 00:13:32 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-17 09:37:05 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-17 10:56:00 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-17 10:00:54 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 23:31:05 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-16 15:04:22 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-16 16:01:13 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 16:58:28 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-16 18:10:01 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 19:33:34 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-16 22:14:42 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 23:31:17 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-17 10:33:46 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-17 09:38:34 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-16 23:46:31 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-16 22:55:11 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-17 00:11:42 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 23:31:26 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-17 10:27:48 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-17 10:26:26 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-17 12:33:18 
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Steve de Mena <steve@[  2008-05-17 01:08:51 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-17 10:45:30 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-17 10:49:58 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-17 11:00:09 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-17 11:04:38 
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Steve de Mena <steve@[  2008-05-17 16:01:06 
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"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-15 20:43:54 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 12:43:00 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 22:12:16 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 21:15:49 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 22:34:19 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 21:57:27 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 23:22:53 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 22:24:32 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 22:44:05 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 22:44:39 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 23:58:28 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-17 10:01:41 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-09 13:09:56 
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Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-06-09 14:45:14 
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"weedhopper" &l  2008-05-13 21:39:23 
Re: more on saving during power out
Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 18:45:06 
Re: more on saving during power out
Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 20:12:10 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 19:14:24 
Re: more on saving during power out
Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 20:20:47 
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Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 19:30:07 
Re: more on saving during power out
George Graves <gmgrave  2008-05-13 22:09:06 
Re: more on saving during power out
Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 22:22:37 
Re: more on saving during power out
Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 23:34:45 
Re: more on saving during power out
Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 22:43:37 
Re: more on saving during power out
Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 23:55:35 
Re: more on saving during power out
Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 23:04:13 
Re: more on saving during power out
Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-14 08:12:33 
Re: more on saving during power out
Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-13 23:32:54 
Re: more on saving during power out
Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 22:40:57 
Re: more on saving during power out
Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-14 00:00:38 
Re: more on saving during power out
Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-14 00:24:33 
Re: more on saving during power out
"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-14 01:18:01 
Re: more on saving during power out
Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-14 11:55:53 
OT:Does *anyone* believe this tired old lie by Snit?
Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-14 14:44:49 
Re: more on saving during power out
"Keith Ream" &l  2008-05-14 01:17:57 
Re: more on saving during power out
Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-14 08:06:46 
Re: more on saving during power out
Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-14 11:54:02 
Re: more on saving during power out
Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-14 14:01:35 
Re: more on saving during power out
Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-14 13:14:41 
Re: more on saving during power out
Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-14 15:25:50 
Re: more on saving during power out
Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-14 13:42:24 
Re: more on saving during power out
Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-14 15:54:23 
Re: more on saving during power out
Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-14 13:57:04 
Re: more on saving during power out
Glorb <Glorb@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-14 16:04:13 
Re: more on saving during power out
Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-14 14:14:00 
Re: more on saving during power out
Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-14 15:26:58 
Re: more on saving during power out
Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-14 15:29:26 
Re: more on saving during power out
Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-14 15:11:19 
Re: more on saving during power out
Steve Carroll <trollki  2008-05-15 21:06:10 
Re: more on saving during power out
-hh <recscuba_google@[  2008-05-14 06:08:25 

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