Re: eBay plans to suck more money out of us!

B J Foster <bjfoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Rod Speed wrote
>> B J Foster <bjfoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> B J Foster <bjfoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>>>> The accc just files those where they belong.

>>>>>>> And your knowledge of that derives from.....?

>>>>>> It isnt hard to see what they take action about, stupid.

>>>>> Yeah, the ACCC filed *this* one in the federal court:

>>>>> "$3 million penalty for Fila's selective distribution policy for
A.F.L.-licensed apparel

>>>>> The Federal Court today ordered penalties of $3 million against FILA
S****t Oceania Pty Limited after finding that 
>>>>> FILA's selective distribution policy for the supply of Australian
Football League-licensed apparel to retailers 
>>>>> was a breach of the Trade Practices Act 1974.

>>>>> Justice Heerey found that FILA had misused its market power and
engaged in exclusive dealing in breach of sections 
>>>>> 46 and 47 of the Trade Practices Act 1974. Section 46 of the Act
prohibits cor****ations with a substantial degree 
>>>>> of power in a market from taking advantage of that power to
eliminate or substantially damage a competitor or to 
>>>>> deter and prevent a person from engaging in competitive conduct.

>>>> Pity ebay isnt doing anything like that. Its doing nothing to its
competitor's auction systems.

>>> Pity that Ebay and Paypal are related parties & thus treated as one
'body cor****ate'.

>> Irrelevant to whether ebay is doing anything to stop or
>> even hinder the use of another competitor's auction system.

> That's your drug-crazed fantasy,

Cant even manage its own lines, or anything else at all, either.

> speedy, never said they did

Never ever said you did.

>>> In any case, third line forcing doesn't require the "lessening of
competition" test (as of 2004).
>>> http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/716809

>> You aint established any 'forcing' in the sense that the act
proscribes.

> The Act is quite clear,

No it aint.

> did you read it?

Yep.

> EBay will force exclusive dealing by requiring sellers to only take
payments via Paypal, excluding direct deposit, 
> direct credit cards, cheques and money orders.

Pity about
http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/719618/fromItemId/729974

Done like a ****ing dinner, as always.

>>>>> Section 47 of the Act prohibits certain types of exclusive dealing".
>>>>>
http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/513636/fromItemId/2332

No it doesnt. It ACTUALLY allows the ACCC to allow that if it chooses to.

And it has chosen to do that.

>>>> Which doesnt even mention what ebay is doing payment wise.

>>>>> Help the ACCC to help you:
>>>>> http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/54217#h2_38

>>>> Not even possible if ebay isnt in breach of the TPA.

>>> We shall see about that.

We have, you're just plain wrong. As always.

>> We will indeed. Bet the ACCC wont do a damned thing,
>> even try to monster ebay into reversing that policy change.

>> They clearly didnt when the much earlier policy change banned
>> the use of Western Union and that is a clear competitor of paypal's.

>>> There's also the question of whether Paypal can legally "take
>>> deposits" without a banking license.

>> Pig ignorant lie. Paypal doesnt take deposits, ****wit.

> Yes it does,

No it doesnt, ****wit. And its allowed to do that anyway, ****wit.