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Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?

by TheLetterK <none@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 29, 2007 at 09:23 AM

David Fritzinger wrote:
> In article <S8ydnfLFy_F_yr7anZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>  "Edwin" <thorne25@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>> "Dave Fritzinger" <dfritzin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>> news:1193439379.852429.142710@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Oct 26, 12:11 pm, Steve <Stephen.Fin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> On Oct 27, 6:57 am, Dave Fritzinger <dfrit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 26, 10:36 am, Steve <Stephen.Fin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> Up until fairly recently, Apple's iMacs were fairly competitive
price
>>>>> wise with a similarly spec'd Dell PC. This no longer seems to be the
>>>>> case!
>>>>> Currently for $1200 you can get a Dell Insiron 530s Desktop
>>>>> * Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E4400
>>>>> * 2GB RAM
>>>>> * 250GB Hard Disk
>>>>> * 128MB ATI Radeon X1300 Graphics
>>>>> * 22" LCD wide screen monitor
>>>>> * Windows Vista Home Premium
>>>>> The nearest Mac model is the 20inch2.0GHz iMac
>>>>> * 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>>>>> * 2GB memory ( Upgraded to match Dell model )
>>>>> * 250GB hard drive
>>>>> * ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT with 128MB memory
>>>>> ~ $1900
>>>>> A $700 difference!!!
>>>> Your information on the iMac is quite wrong. See below:
>>>> 20", 2.4 GHz model.
>>>> 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>>>> 1GB memory
>>>> 320GB hard drive1
>>>> 8x double-layer SuperDrive
>>>> ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256MB memory
>>>> ****ps: Within 24 hours
>>>> Free ****pping
>>>> $1,499.00
>>>> The 2 GHz model (20"):
>>>> 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>>>> 1GB memory
>>>> 250GB hard drive1
>>>> 8x double-layer SuperDrive
>>>> ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT with 128MB memory
>>>> ****ps: Within 24 hours
>>>> Free ****pping
>>>> The 24" model:
>>>> 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>>>> 1GB memory
>>>> 320GB hard drive1
>>>> 8x double-layer SuperDrive
>>>> ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256MB memory
>>>> For all, add $150 for an extra Gig of memory. All include the
>>>> following:
>>>> Optical drive3   8x double-layer SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
>>>> Graphics         ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT with 128MB of GDDR3 memory 
>>>> ATI Radeon
>>>> HD 2600 PRO with 256MB of GDDR3 memory
>>>> Video    Built-in iSight camera
>>>> Mini-DVI video out with sup****t for DVI, VGA, S-video, and composite
>>>> video output (requires adapter, sold separately)
>>>> Sup****t for external display with digital resolution up to 1920 x
>>>> 1200, analog resolution up to 2048 x 1536
>>>> Expansion        Three USB 2.0 ****ts on iMac; two USB 2.0 ****ts on 
>>>> keyboard
>>>> One FireWire 400 and one FireWire 800 ****t
>>>> Audio    Built-in stereo speakers with internal 24-watt digital
>>>> amplifier
>>>> Built-in microphone
>>>> Optical digital audio output/headphone out
>>>> Optical digital audio input/audio line in
>>>> Ethernet         Built-in 10/100/1000BASE-T (Gigabit)
>>>> Wireless         Built-in Air****t Extreme (802.11n)4
>>>> Built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR (Enhanced Data Rate) module
>>>> So, while the Dell probably still comes in a bit cheaper, the
>>>> difference isn't nearly what you say for equivalent computers.
>>>> --
>>>> Dave Fritzinger
>>>> Honolulu, HI
>>> The prices and configurations that I listed are accurate from the
>>> current Apple and Dell AUSTRALIAN product listings.
>>>
>>> Sorry, I should have mentioned that in the original posting.
>> Fair enough. However, I think the iMac would still be closer in price
>> if they were decked out comparably.
>>
>> Which means "use the iMac as the baseline."   Include everything the
iMac 
>> has, whether or not you need it or want it, and ignore anything the PC
has 
>> that the iMac does not.
> 
> Seriously, since Apple offers fewer configuration options than Dell, I'm

> not sure how else you would do the comparison.

Ignore the features you don't need. Like, you know, what real people 
(and especially businesses!) actually do when making a computer buying 
decision. If I don't use a webcam, why would I care that one was 
included? Apple should not be favored for their *lack* of choice offered 
to the consumer.
 




 34 Posts in Topic:
What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Steve <Stephen.Finlay@  2007-10-26 13:36:08 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Joe Wedlake <drumshred  2007-10-26 13:56:50 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Dave Fritzinger <dfrit  2007-10-26 13:57:53 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Edwin <thorne25@[EMAIL  2007-10-26 14:00:43 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Sandman <mr@[EMAIL PRO  2007-10-26 23:07:33 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
">-iii->"  2007-10-26 17:40:20 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Sandman <mr@[EMAIL PRO  2007-10-26 23:46:24 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
"zara" <spoo  2007-10-26 18:56:55 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Sandman <mr@[EMAIL PRO  2007-10-27 08:30:22 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Andy <nospam@[EMAIL PR  2007-10-27 10:53:45 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
"zara" <spoo  2007-10-28 12:26:36 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
"kdt" <scarf  2007-10-26 18:35:24 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
"zara" <spoo  2007-10-26 18:58:28 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
"Edwin" <tho  2007-10-27 10:29:29 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
"kdt" <scarf  2007-10-27 14:02:51 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
"Edwin" <tho  2007-10-27 13:39:05 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Tim Murray <no-spam@[E  2007-10-26 22:35:34 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
"Edwin" <tho  2007-10-27 10:34:02 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Tim Murray <no-spam@[E  2007-10-27 16:34:57 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Alan Baker <alangbaker  2007-10-27 20:43:55 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Edwin <thorne25@[EMAIL  2007-10-26 14:23:54 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Sandman <mr@[EMAIL PRO  2007-10-26 23:45:48 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Edwin <thorne25@[EMAIL  2007-10-26 14:49:08 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Sandman <mr@[EMAIL PRO  2007-10-26 23:52:46 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Steve <Stephen.Finlay@  2007-10-26 15:11:24 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Dave Fritzinger <dfrit  2007-10-26 15:56:19 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
"Edwin" <tho  2007-10-27 10:23:00 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
David Fritzinger <dfri  2007-10-27 13:28:33 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
TheLetterK <none@[EMAI  2007-10-29 09:23:29 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
dempson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-27 18:19:35 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
TheLetterK <none@[EMAI  2007-10-29 09:27:00 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Edwin <thorne25@[EMAIL  2007-10-29 08:16:55 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Sandman <mr@[EMAIL PRO  2007-10-29 16:23:32 
Re: What's happened to Apple's pricing competitivness?
Alan Baker <alangbaker  2007-10-29 18:44:29 

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